5-WW, 2-DIESEL, and 5 unknowns

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Okay guys so I figure it's about time to show my new grow. These are 2 diesel(indi dominate) 5 Nirvana WW sativa dom for sure, and 5 unknowns of mixed indica sativa heritage. It's def time to repot these babies in some new soil in bigger containers and that will happen today sometimes...I have been watering about every 2 days now, plants are between 12-14 inches tall .

Again this grow is under about 30k lumens of mixed spectrum light, I pinched all the WW 2 days ago to encourage some side branching but I am trying not to stress these out too much until I get them potted up.

The two DIESEL are from the southeast , and is a friends personal strain ...Very indica dom, but slower growing than even the WW...however they are much prettier plants though...

I am preterbed at how long it takes to get the WW started, and going. I had to baby them fuckers for a month before any REAL growth was seen...However they are all exactly alike in pheno and is a very stable lookin plant, and can take all you want to give it ....

I have bought some solar reflectors for your car at the local dollar store for like 2$ a piece and hung them vertical and I replaced my old sylvania HPS 150 with a PHILLIPS 150 HPS the deff in brightness was apparent from the time I flipped the lights back on.
My 400 is too hot for my space and will be used at a later date for mom's, and veg clones when my bigger grow area is built.....

The plants love the 150 though, and they are growing like mad, just need to be potted up as said before to help them along.:icon_smil

Any suggestions with the WW would be greatly appreciated and don't hate on my grow area, cause it works well and stays cool lol...80F constant during the day and about 70 at night. The mylar reflectors brought the temps up some but made the flat white paint look like a chump in the reflectiveness area..about a 10% increase in brightness overall.

Here are a couple pics of all of them currently in veg...can't wait to see what they do when I pot them up and they are also currently on an 18/6 light schedule and being fed 9-18-10 veg formula by shultz and a micronute formula ..with superthrive in the mix every other watering.

[herbgrower]

Looking good Mikey. :thumbsup:
Um,instead of watering every 2-3 days,why dont you get a mister and spray them daily,i usually do this when lights first come on,just before i got to bed,and when i get up again in the morning.
This way ya dont have the problem of over-watering and from my experience so far the plants dont seem to mind a "shower" 3 times a day,just my two cents worth. :)
And there is nothing wrong with the size of your grow space.mine is about 1/2 as wide,but a bit wider ! :eek:

[trillions of atoms]

nice mikey-


i can tell which are the ww and then the desiels. very diff leaf structure. but they all look good man! keep um green and pay attetion to what they want. they will fill out soon enough and youll be puffin on some fine green wishing you had more green plants to watch bloom, so start some more now! :icon_smil :blaze: :animbong: :thumbsup:

[trillions of atoms]

hey,


why not grow on a 24/0 veg cycle....more light =s more growth.


also when you flip to 12/12 the plants seem to show faster from day-1. (in my expierence at least) . just wondering if youve tried this :)

And that is a good size space, why is a 400 to hot? maybe you need more cooling and ventilation! that would be a GREAT lamp to get some FATTT nuggs off of. what size vent fan u have with ducting? ventilation is a necissity so i hope you got it covered!


TOA:animbong:

[Stash]

looking nice Mikey youll be in the bud of the month contest before to long :)

[newf]

nice,,, i have one problem with spraying,, and same prob with keeping lights on 24/0,,, its not good for root development,, i only spray for emergencies,,, 24/0,, only after i switch lights to show sex, or i need the heat,,, just my 2 cents.....:icon_smil

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Ok, first ...herb I would rather water at the roots.Just a personal preferance and I have no problems with overwatering ever.
Secondly I prefer the 18/6 to 24/0 cycle for the reason of less power consumption, I am home all of the time and a little extra time to grow is not a problem. I am a patient grower. Otherwise I like the 6 hours of dark from the root development aspect, and to cut down on heat from the closet at night ....

I won't run a 400 until I got the space...but my flower room will run a 600..use the 400 I got for veg and my 150 for clones ....but that's a good ways away.:thumbsup:

Okay ....I don't have the cash to get any more shit for my grows right now...I will use what I have until I get a larger space....until then I'll show yall what my little setup is capable of.

I just transplanted the plants into new containers and am trying an experiment with the containers.... I was debating on a container to use and figured I had to go 2 plants to a garbage can again...

BUT...I am using a very tiny holed window screen as a baffle to seperate the the large cans into two 2-1/4 gallon containers like two compartments..pics tomorrow to explain more..This way if one is a male and I pull it the roots aren't tangled together with the other plant.
Experimenting is the key word..
The WW's went together, and the Diesels went together...the other unknowns went in together also.

They are in their final home's and in 2 weeks the flip will ensue and we'll be off to the races.

[MexicanGrower]

Looks Good :blaze:

[web420]

:wazzup: Mikey

Nice :photo:

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Okay since my last post I had to transplant them. Not all of my plants were effected by the nute burn. But 6/12 were...I am giong to mark these plants and see if a mojority of either the burned or unburned have a higher male to female ratio..I would just like to see how the burned ones' turn out...

Anyways I got some nice pics for you guys and again My DIESEL is def living up to it's name..That's the pic of the HUGE sativa leaning leaf...The Diesel seeds showed two opposite pheno's in the leaf structure, but I hope both are females and big yeilders.
I have 4 outta 5 WW doing good. And the other unknowns are the one's that got burned so bad.

Now for an observation for you guys to contemplate. I noticed that most bagseed plants are VERY VERY easily burned with nutes...That's why 4 outta the 6 burned plants look near death, but believe me they are standing up and have major new growth.

I flipped the lights on 24/0 for the next 3 weeks, then it will go to 12/12.

I am so excited about the diesel , if it is a girl i will clone the shit outta it and just keep it as a mother in my little cab.

Anyways guys, I gotta say that the BACCTO soil I used is what brought them back.
Some of the healthy plants got MINOR nute burn but have now almost fully recovered..The badly burned one's i am nursing along.They are the main reason I flipped the lights to 24/0 to see if I can get more growth outta them than 18/6 like i normally run..

I have run two grows on 24/0 and now 2 on 18/6 and I know for a fact that the 24/0 gives better growth faster, but I like to save energy lol.

anyways here are the pics guys enjoy and feel free to poke fun at the burned one's i don't care....shit you live and learn.That's why I am going 100% organic the next grow......I have seen the light..lolIm stoooned

[Mr.Wakenbake]

curling upwards..micronutes added.pH 6.8 temps 78-80f and not over watered .

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Well i gave em a shot of light fertilizer last night and they have perked up nicely..One diesel in the shot of the 2 plants side by side..the smaller one is the diesel suffering from K def...the other hasn't given me one problem ever..

All the bagseed plants have recovered and all the ww is doin good.
Thanks TOA for your advice and help and thanks everyone else for your help with this grow...only 2 months left now to :icon_smil

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Well i gave em a shot of light fertilizer last night and they have perked up nicely..One diesel in the shot of the 2 plants side by side..the smaller one is the diesel suffering from K def...the other hasn't given me one problem ever..

All the bagseed plants have recovered and all the ww is doin good.
Thanks TOA for your advice and help and thanks everyone else for your help with this grow...only 2 months left now to :icon_smil

[Tiberon]

good to hear things are looking up mikey!
keep us all informed:thumbsup:

:blaze:

[trillions of atoms]

lookin fine my man!!:icon_smil :blaze: :bongdude: :animbong: :thumbsup:

[chopstick]

Last couple pics look fine to me, nice job, just gotta grow em out now :thumbsup:

[Weedgrl]

Looking nice Mikey! Glad you got your problem worked out :icon_smil

[Mr.Wakenbake]

This is the same post i have over on GK....

Okay well I got my plants budding up nicely.. I redone my grow closet again and put in a 150 and 250 hps to finish off the girls. Both the ww's are coming along nicely.

However, I do have two distinct pheno's of the WW. One is more leafy and the internodes are a tad longer. It's also producing less than the other one. This pheno has almost no side branching at all, and has grown healthy throughout.

The other pheno is a gonna be a better yeilder....much better. The internodes are short, and the calyx to leaf ratio is much better, but the nugs are going to be fluffier.

Both are covered with crystals already and are doing well.
I don't think there is going to be any problem with heat at all since i removed the old fan and the 4 ft flo's.

The room will go through one more transformation soon, but i have to wait until these are done..soon very soon lol.


here are some pics of the plants, before i put in that 250 and took out the flo's

The plants are recieving all red spectrum lighting now..for flower.
about 50k lumens worth...hope adding the 250 will double what i would have gotten .

The 250 will be soon be in use with my two shelf system . I can't wait to get that going...!

anyways enjoy the pictures

the last pic is of one of the bagseed buds...pitiful compared to the ww...but we'll see about 7 weeks from now

[herbgrower]

Why ya using that silver stuff for W&B ? :stumped:
Flat white paint is the best for your grow room,just my :2cents: tho.

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Herb my friend that is mylar homey..and i have compared both flat white and mylar, and mylar increased the brightness in the room by about 10%.

I too thought that white paint was the best, but alas when i put the mylar in there, there were no more dark corners anymore...that's just what i have observed with it...

but to each his own my friend

[herbgrower]

I thought mylar was a LOT shinier than that,well Tibs's is,looks more to me like them silver sun-shades you use for your car window bro. ;)

[Tiberon]

actually...I dont think that is mylar. Mylar is paper thin.
Isnt that stuff more like corragated insulation? Im sure it works just fine....and its probably easier to work with than real mylar. That stuff looks more sturdy.

Nice plants too bro!!!

:blaze:

[Mr.Wakenbake]

I read on the internet somewhere that a evenly crinkled mylar surface reflects more light than a flat white or just flat mylar surface...not to mention it keeps the door of the room and surrounding walls from getting hot and rising suspicion from any nosey person....

Hell mylar for 2$ a shade and they are 4 x 2ish and easily found at the dollar store..they have def served the purpose so far.....

It said that it was mylar on the box...and you can't see through it at all, unlike the polypropelene sheeting that emergency blankets are made of...

[Tiberon]

right on bro....not trying to tell ya what ya have or anything.
next time you in a hydro store....look at their mylar...youll see what I mean. Shit is spendy tho....i got a good deal on ebay.

But im sure that gear you have there is just fine and dandy.

[Mr.Wakenbake]

i guess they do aight..my temps with my new fan installed and everything run at 80 degrees or so..the car shades will rip easy, so i put them up with push pins...I do try to be careful with them though... May take them out when i put my shelving in though and use them for another project or something..

Anyways my plants are putting on the buds at a quickening pace now.....one is def going to have dense nugs and the other is going to have bigger buds, but more aery....even with the extra 250HPS in there...

The bagseed plant is starting to put on the weight too, but is about half the weight in total of what the WW's are doing.

I have some clones rooted and my mandala seeds are in...this grpw will be over with in about 6 weeks or so, and will def have plenty to cram in there for the next go round...

thanks for all the comments guys and all u fella's help:icon_smil

[Mr.Wakenbake]

Well i figure it's time for an update.My WW have been going about 60 ish days or so .. and so have the bagseed plants. They are all doing fine i guess...other than just waiting for them to finish the lastlittle bit in their leaves .. about 2 more weeks and they are coming down, regardless of whatever.. I just need the room and to go ahead and make renovations.

anyways here they are.. and the top of my biggest WW got a tad burnt due to reflector being right on it but dayum i topped the bitch twice during flower because she was stretchin on me..!

anways they are starting to get nice and frosty within the bud and the calyxes are swelling, it's just a matter of time now really..

also a couple of the phat skunk i am giving another go round.. these plants didn't have but just a couple weeks of veg maybe 3 max from seed before throwing into flower.. already putting up popcorn everywhere.

the WW is leafy but most of those fan leaves should be gone in just a couple weeks or so.. I am not happy with this strain so far, but they do have a couplemore weeks left.. I am also including my newest girls in there at about 2 weeks flower..

[Stash]

Lookin good Mikey :)

[SFC]

Mikey something is rong my friend. I am not sure what without better pics, but I see mad leaf curling, deformity,and yellowing (unnatural yellowing). Looks like you could have a ph problem or a major league Nute lockup. Stash......Good call:thumbsup:

[Mr.Wakenbake]

pH is perfect 6.5-6.6 no nutrients from here on out. and it's from reflector burn and a prior pH problem.... my environment also has less than 30% humidity in there..

the plants are just plain leafy... i have done everything right so far in flowering with the WW cept a small pH problem a couple weeks ago.. that is where the curl came from.. I really don't know why they are so nasty looking guys.. it's just baffeling and i have been trying to figure it out for the last few weeks.. and nothing helped cept adjusting my pH down from 7.0 to 6.5 a couple weeks back.. it was causing some slowage in trichome formatin and slight leaf curl.. the lights are within 6 inches from the top of that biggest plant and is causing some heat problems... but all that will be fixed by my next grow...

this Nirvana shit has just baffeled me in flower... it was healthy healthy healthy ... and still is, but has signes of damage... i am cutting all of them cept my little phat skunk in 2 weeks I am just tired of trying to help out these leafy, aery bitches and nothing i have done helps them.. nothing.. so they are healthy enough to make it for a couple more weeks, and they are now putting on plenty of resin . They should fatten up some more before the chop..

I know it's not the best guys, but hey i'm still learning and I think alot of it was these beans.. bad germ rate, bad male to female ratio, and nothing i did helped get rid of the leafyness.. I have only ben using my 1-5-5 at full strength for the past month.. once a week . Metanaturals.. my smaller plants have no problems whatsoever ..and i don't know what 's up with the Widow's ..i claim bullshit on their seeds.

edit. these pictures were taken right after a watering and really hadn't fully recovered from me letting them go through a dry cycle..that's why they look a little limp.