View Full Version : SO, what nutes you guys using?
Useless
04-18-2005, 08:56 AM
Just wondering what everyone is using these days to get superb results.
I am using the GH 3 part series, Floralicious (or Green Fuse) bloom stimulator, Hygrozyme (I really can't say enough about this, its f-ing great!) , Hydroplex and then Canna PK 13/14 or Mad Farmers M.O.A.B. for week 6 only.
I have found that the Hygrozyme and the Hydroplex both drop my PH leveles, so no acids are required. And thats coming from 8.4 tap water to a perfect 5.5-6.0 !!!!
I am also currently testing B'Cuzz nutrients. Its a two part base formula (A & B) and they use something they call PK 13/14 as a bloom enhancer, but it doesn't do the same thing as the PK 13/14 by Canna. It actually replaces the hydroplex in my recipe!Thought that was rather interesting. The result is a higher PH level, but I am still not utilizing any acids, I want to see what it will do on it's own.
I am only growing a couple plants nowadays, so it's easy to experiment.
Well, that's me, what about you folks?
Sparky
04-18-2005, 11:58 AM
Still stickin with the Metas here. :smoke2:
GhostDog
04-18-2005, 12:13 PM
I'm using gh Floranova, with floralicious and kool bloom. works great.
nobogart
04-19-2005, 02:24 AM
age old organics grow and bloom with some floralicious grow and bloom to supplement and in bloom i also add some soluble seaweed extact.
RacerX
04-19-2005, 06:58 AM
What's up Useless? Good to hear you around. I've been using the Fox Farms trio (Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom)... I tried some Bottannicare (Pure Blend Pro) & liked it. I think I'm going to try the guano teas next. My hydro store moved (2 hrs away) but they stock all the guanos you could hope for... It's time RX got his feet wet.
Was a Botanicare(highly recommend it) and 'Above & Beyond'(recommend it too) man for awhile there.
Recently switched over to a combination of Earth juice(catalyst, microblast, Bloom) and Fox Farm products(Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger bloom) with some Diamond Nectar as an additive.
RacerX
04-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Hey SD, are you using them all at once or alternating the 2 brands (the Earth Juice & FF)?
Rx Im big on experimenting with ferts for some reason, we dont grow more than 3 plants at a time so thats my way of experimenting. Its always changing all depending on what the plants tell me. Right now, in fact yesterday, we flushed so I added 3/4 tsp FF Grow Big(because we ran out of Tiger Bloom) with 1 tsp FF Big Bloom, 2 tsp EJ Bloom, 1 tsp EJ catalyst, 1/2 teaspoon EJ microblast and 2 tsp Diamond Nectar PER GALLON...We also grow with Distilled water 95% of the time(this grow we changed that and I regretted it all the way so we went back to it couple weeks ago)
Today I top the buckets off with plain water tommorrow(all depending on what the plants tell me in the morning) I might go with half that combo or less just read the plants everyday. There was a point in the beginning of flowering this grow where we were using a 'drop' of everything but the kitchen sink. Botanicare Pure Blend pro, Hydroplex, and all the others mentioned above on top of it. Im not going to lie to ya I went a little overboard this time for about a week there and they let me know about it! but was able to get them back on track real quick flushed then backed off a little and there doing fantastic at this point.
The key is to go real light on everything in the end making a solution that would equal in strength what you would use with a normal fert regimen at that particular cycle in the plants life.
I do this because Im on a quest to find the best yielding, most potent and best tasting mj available and just dig experimenting with ferts :D .
In the past we would go with 'Above & Beyond' for veg along with the botanicare line for early, and mid flower with a Jamaican guano tea added to that in mid and late flower(backing off the botanicare some to compensate for the guano) with the A & B splashed in here and there all along the way. Thats the key you have to plan it right you cant go overboard you have to back off one a little(or alot all depending on what your doing) in order to add some of the other... obviously
So far Ive had a friend(45 years old from California smoking pot since his teens) 'seriously' offer me $1,000 dollars an ounce for our bud and quite a few more(all experienced smokers between the ages of 35-45 yrs of age) say our bud is the absolute best theyve ever smoked in their entire lives(which Im sure most everyone here has heard at one time or another). Not to brag but it is Potent I like to believe it has something to do with our crazy fert regimen covering all the nutrient bases leaving no spaces on top of an extended veg period. This batch is a new strain to us but no different in quality covered in triches the stems and portions of fan leaves included.
Sparky
04-21-2005, 01:00 AM
:roll: Yeah I've had a few compliments on my bud from people who had NO idea I grew it. Mainly that my roomie is known for having incredible bud, but nobody knows where he gets it. :D
Tiberon
04-21-2005, 01:45 AM
I am currently using GH 3 part in soil and its......okay.
All my new seedlings and clones though are now receiving pureblend ferts...somethin new.
marymaryquitecntrary
04-21-2005, 02:21 AM
i've been using Fox Farms Grow Big and Tiger Bloom in my hydro buckets and hydrofarms since my 2nd grow. upon the recent recommendation of my hydro guy, i've been adding GH Diamond Nectar, too.
i'm old and weary, so i just use the 'Keep It Simple Stupid' method. it's so simple, i could do it (change water every 2 wks) in my sleep.
in fact, i believe i have several times.
HappyJay
04-22-2005, 09:04 AM
GDay fella.
Still tinkering with the canna nutes, pk13/14 and ST and been playin round a little lately with silica and oxy plus on occasion.
Spose not to tamper with sumthin if it aint broke!!.
Greenkitty
05-21-2005, 10:22 PM
I'm useing Holand Secrete 3 part with the plant a gee note series additives. Also hygrozyme. I see some use some of the Green Fuse products. Well, my hydro guy tells me that the Green Fuse was a knock off of the Holand Secrete products. They are the distributers for Holand Secrete. There chemist had a falling out with them and went and produced the knock off GreenFuse. I can buy it through them for about half price until it runs out.
erix4twenty
07-25-2005, 01:32 AM
I'm also a age old grower - grow/bloom with lots of worm tea
thats how I get down !!
1.5 years now
stonedsk8er420
10-21-2005, 07:29 AM
last time i grew i used fish emolgin (the waste water in the fish tank) it's loaded with nitrogen works good
Jmoneyz405
11-10-2005, 12:35 AM
i dont use anything besides straight water...Every now and then i might add some fish emulgin but not too often
mistical
11-13-2005, 09:10 PM
dutch masters/cube soak
canna rizotonic/root stim
canna coco A/B veg-bloom
vitalink/silicate
canna/pk-13/14
GHE/ripen :blazed:
neobud
02-07-2006, 03:16 AM
I use them because I can't use anything alive the way I sterilize my water. I use a UV Sterilizer and a pond fogger which would also kill anything organic.
esoterikos
02-08-2006, 03:11 AM
GH 3 part
Cannazyme
Superthrive
BCuzz Bloom stimulant
GH Ripen
BelowMe
02-09-2006, 07:20 PM
GH 3part
hollands cup grow
Koolbloom
i like the ph buffers.
Igotagun
02-16-2006, 04:34 PM
I use NSR greenleaves only thing i ever used so i can't realy compare it to anything. But seem to do a great job for me
Weedgrl
02-22-2006, 05:22 PM
Stuck on the old Fox Farms trio
Merman
06-29-2006, 07:00 AM
Fox Farm for Hydro: Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom
I'm using the tri-pak for the first time on this grow.... I'm impressed....flowers appear much fatter, smellier.
The tri-pak: Open Seasame, Beastie Blooms, Cha-Ching
I use the Fox Farm nute chart for guidance, I'm finding I need to back off my
EC 0.2-0.4 or things get burned.
Protekt: silica addtive, phos. based. Awesome for balancing pH... use it like pH up!
Mycorrhizal fungi and beneficial bacteria: Can't say enough good about it... totally changed my growing- plants are so much healtier, roots freaking love it, and my pH is so stable I only change the resivoir when I switch to 12/12!
P.S. I've used Dynagrow a few times with not-so-good results.... very sensitive pH. Plants were wimpy... probably my fault!
smokinbasser
06-29-2006, 09:27 AM
I use the entire 5 part earth juice line along with alaskan fish fertilizer and alaskan mor-bloom. I use superthrive from germination through the first two weeks of 12/12. It is rumored to delay flowering but as of yet I have not seen any indication of retardation (in the plants LOL)
nogoodnamesleft
07-09-2006, 12:22 AM
I like AN 2+ prgram
rtyree
07-11-2006, 10:58 PM
Advanced 2 plus
Bio Bizz ........ full range except fish emulsion (and that's because I can't stand the smell of the stuff)
Root Juice with first watering to clone really kicks them into growing, clones in coir
Plenty of Bloom and Top Max then water only from Day 40 of flowering
That's all for Plagron Batmix soil, which is pretty N rich to start with
Bush:blaze: :blaze:
Bud-E
10-24-2006, 08:28 PM
I grew with GH flora for years...I think its great but I'm trying Ionic again...I used it one a few years ago when I was still learning and liked it...gonna give it one more try....its doesn't discolor the roots as much
noobfarmer
11-01-2006, 05:02 PM
ive been using peters 20-20-20 is that good?
Stash
11-01-2006, 05:12 PM
only if your trying to make Plant Jerky
noobfarmer
11-01-2006, 05:51 PM
whats plant jerky?
Stash
11-01-2006, 05:58 PM
well its just like beef jerky but its a plant.....Read up on plant nutrition and you will have a better understanding of what you wanna feed your plant
noobfarmer
11-02-2006, 09:27 PM
Well I was givin a Advenced nutrients 2+ program but its so man y bottles i wanted something simple....but ill go ahead and give this a shot
trillions of atoms
11-05-2006, 08:19 PM
wow, all those thousands spent on equipment and then using peters202020:eek:
I'm a beginer to this on 3 grow now using pro blend and pro-mix , 400 hps closet anyway (this is soooooooo funny )Before I grew I always got off this one guy but as of a year ago the weed situation had been shit. I mean really bad never seen it like this before. I ran into him and he says I got some great weed I said ok let me have a gram to see, cause everything he's given me is yuck! Meanwhile I got alot of my own home but I don't want him to know I grow. Well I smoked some and as usual nothing special,lol. Than I was talking to him a few days later and he says " what cha think of that stuff"? " Nothing special" he than says " HEY you should talk to your brother! He's got some bomb ! " Reallyyyyyyyyyyyyy wheres he getting it from"? " I don't know he won't tell me ". " LMFAO "! I said " I be giving him a call right now ". Laterrrrrrrrr. The stuff my brother has is mine! How funny is that.:blazed: ;)
Hydro#1
01-06-2007, 10:34 PM
Its always nice to hear people talk about your weed in that manner,:thumbsup: :thumbsup: My brother has a neighbour who he smokes with occasionally,:blazed: ,,,he is always asking my brother where he gets his bud:icon_smil ,,,
Weedgrl
01-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Stuck on the old Fox Farms trio
I have since switched over to Metanaturals, both veg and flower nutes as well as Liquid Karma.
Tiberon
01-09-2007, 02:04 AM
Word...I switched up too.
Im on to the Floranova series with the Floralicious as an additive.
Gone back to chems!
had the flora nova,,, gave it away,,, cant seem to try anything else since i found bio bizz....
Hydro#1
01-11-2007, 08:11 PM
Word...I switched up too.
Im on to the Floranova series with the Floralicious as an additive.
Gone back to chems!
I was under the asumption that Flora Nova was a organic fertilizer,,,Am I wrong?
I am in the middle of trying it on my ladies as we speak,,not to sure if I like it or not. Seem sto be doin gokay so far. Going to be switching to Bio Bizz on my next grow. I will be using it on some Blue Budda's in flower, and some Direwulfe's, and some WWxBB in veg. The true test is when I flower the dire's and the wwxbb. Thanks again for the help Newf!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hydro#1
mistical
01-14-2007, 10:27 AM
ive just switched my nutes to METROP,,,concentrated bliss,,40ml to a 100 ltr ressie SAFE:thumbsup:
I found with the Floranova/floralicious you need to really mix lightly the PPM will look good at first,and then shoot way the fuck up. Mix it,and the check it after a half hour. Good stuff though.
Killahkush
02-02-2007, 06:17 AM
I’m using fox farm. I was just using tiger bloom but today at the hydro store the lady said I shouldn’t only be using that, she said it should only be used with big bloom so I picked up some of that and some grow big too.
trillions of atoms
02-12-2007, 08:05 PM
i piss n shit on my plants..... HUMANURE BABY!
:toa:
:animbong:
Sensi-man
02-16-2007, 07:55 PM
I use a simple set up,organic soil mixed with perlite and vermiculite and a touch of lime.. as for nutes,i use the bio -bizz range from www.drchronic.com ,bio grow for veg, bio bud bloom for 1st stage of flowering and bio bud booster to danken my buds near the end,i also use root hormones but im thinking of getting more into the 'natural' organics like all the guano stuff trill uses,etc.
Iv only just realised after growing all this time that i can germinate my seeds in 100% vermiculite(doh!),works better than soil!Thinking of using a soil coco mix for the repotting stage along with the usual ingrediants iv mentioned.Peace:bongdude:
UrBigBuddie01
02-20-2007, 12:24 PM
GDay fella.
Still tinkering with the canna nutes, pk13/14 and ST and been playin round a little lately with silica and oxy plus on occasion.
Spose not to tamper with sumthin if it aint broke!!.
Very well said my friend, NEVER tamper with something, iff its NOT broke!!
Iff its NOT broke , why try n fix it or try n change it, as long as it "works" for ya's!!!
Peace,
UBB.........:icon_smil :thumbsup:
UrBigBuddie01
02-20-2007, 12:38 PM
last time i grew i used fish emolgin (the waste water in the fish tank) it's loaded with nitrogen works good
Fuc.in fantastic AVATOR my friend, lmao, thats cool as fu.. my friend!!!:thumbsup:
Anyway, i was actually posting this to say," Dont ever use ANY stagnant water, no matter how much goodness in minerals or nutrients in any amount, it has in it!!!
It will Fuck up ur PH scale of things for sure, iff not strait away, in time it will fuck it all upo iff you continue to use the methos of the fish tank waste...
What ya tink its called WASTE for my friend???:eek: ;)
Peace, n hope you find a better solution for you r additives for growing my man.....:thumbsup: ;)
Peace Out,
I PERSONALLy use BIO-BIZZ nutes(Bio-Grow/Bio-Bloom/Topmax(Bud Booster with alot of added minerals for that extra abudant Larger Bloom inthe budding area's!!!
Peace all,
UBB...........:420: :titflash: :bm2: :moon: :weedgrl:LOve ya weedgirl :bounce: :whip: :bm: :boobgod: :laughing: :pimp: ANYTIME!!! for you...:sexy:
wiseman
02-22-2007, 02:29 PM
Some of the Hydro nutes i use.
nowherefast
03-01-2007, 03:49 AM
been usin PBP with calmag, silica, dark energy and liquid karma, but switched the LK to topmax and the PBP bloom to biobizz bloom. heard soo many good things about the biobizz and needed some more bloom so givin it a shot.
been usin PBP with calmag, silica, dark energy and liquid karma, but switched the LK to topmax and the PBP bloom to biobizz bloom. heard soo many good things about the biobizz and needed some more bloom so givin it a shot.
cant go wrong buddy :newf:
dr.claw
03-17-2007, 06:23 AM
gh3 part here with a fox farm chaser :) the dr. loves the cocktails
additives are
protekt
hydroguard
and epsom salts
seems to do the trick and has consistantly netted me somewhere around .70 grams per watt
stromelk
04-17-2007, 01:21 AM
I use Grotek Bi-tek Grow & Bloom, Organic Fusion Grow & Bloom, Heavy Bud, Bud Fuel, Vitamax (B supplement) and Monster Bloom...works well for me.
gnarly
05-15-2008, 04:23 AM
The Fox Farm line + CalMag+
Don de Marco
05-15-2008, 08:40 AM
Fuc.in fantastic AVATOR my friend, lmao, thats cool as fu.. my friend!!!:thumbsup:
Anyway, i was actually posting this to say," Dont ever use ANY stagnant water, no matter how much goodness in minerals or nutrients in any amount, it has in it!!!
It will Fuck up ur PH scale of things for sure, iff not strait away, in time it will fuck it all upo iff you continue to use the methos of the fish tank waste...
What ya tink its called WASTE for my friend???:eek: ;)
Peace, n hope you find a better solution for you r additives for growing my man.....:thumbsup: ;)
Peace Out,
I PERSONALLy use BIO-BIZZ nutes(Bio-Grow/Bio-Bloom/Topmax(Bud Booster with alot of added minerals for that extra abudant Larger Bloom inthe budding area's!!!
Peace all,
UBB...........:420: :titflash: :bm2: :moon: :weedgrl:LOve ya weedgirl :bounce: :whip: :bm: :boobgod: :laughing: :pimp: ANYTIME!!! for you...:sexy:
Sry UBB if I have to disagree. First, fishtank water isn't stagnant. Usually there is a pump, filter to add oxygen and to avoid stagnation. Most fish wouldn't like it anyway.
Second, there is no waste in nature, it's a continuous process of transformation. In commercial products however there is often a huge ammount of waste included, real waste.
Having said that, I've grown successfully plants with water from the fishtank, giving them plain water for the last three weeks, not really necessary, but I find the finished product better that way. I'm reusing and recycling more and more and my grows get even better the result is tastier and the whole process gets steadier and cheaper. I've now ditched my minerals completely with the exception of the epsom salts and I've cut down the bought organic nutes as well. I still buy inoculants, coco, perlite, "Gesteinsmehl" and hoof meal, because I like to support the few horn mills that are almost near extinction and it' s a rich source of nitrogen (13%). I spent much time and effort in studying the chemistry of plants and their metabolisms. That knowledge I applied to organics, how are nutrients provided by microorganisms and made available for plants and so on. With that knowledge that I have now acquired I simply do not want to spend money on fancy names. Or as s.o. else said:
The expensive stuff for the inexperienced.
I'm not saying you are :D
link420
05-15-2008, 11:25 AM
I used the GHE Flora Series with the GHE PH down and I had bad PH fluctuation problems the whole grow. I'd mix it, let it sit for a day and then drop it to a PH of 5.5-5.8...and three days later its at 6.2-6.4 again. I'm a noob to nutrients and indoor growing, but I was still surprised at how unstable the whole thing was. Next time I'm doing soil and different nutes : pipe:
Delta-9
05-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I used the GHE Flora Series with the GHE PH down and I had bad PH fluctuation problems the whole grow. I'd mix it, let it sit for a day and then drop it to a PH of 5.5-5.8...and three days later its at 6.2-6.4 again. I'm a noob to nutrients and indoor growing, but I was still surprised at how unstable the whole thing was. Next time I'm doing soil and different nutes : pipe:
im not sure if you now but when mixing 3-part flora series you have to mix the micro first otherwise you will have a nute lockout this could be the prob with your p.h. i use GH with excelent results i think its a easy system to use also there flora nova series is good to i use alot of there products i personaly love them floralicious plus, kool bloom, sub culture, chi, and once a month i run flora clean thru my hydro systems for a couple days to clean out the salt buildups you might wanna try flora nova 2 part bloom and grow no mixing different things just one for grow and one for flower great stuff i like it:thumbsup:
and as for the poll im always trying new things so i cant pick just one but i always have flora series and flora nova around to fall back on if the plants dont like what i gave em
link420
06-25-2008, 10:06 PM
im not sure if you now but when mixing 3-part flora series you have to mix the micro first otherwise you will have a nute lockout this could be the prob with your p.h.
thanks for the info man, I didn't know that at all :eek: I figured it was probably me, not the nutes...so hopefully I'll have better results next time :thumbsup:
Delta-9
06-30-2008, 03:28 PM
thanks for the info man, I didn't know that at all :eek: I figured it was probably me, not the nutes...so hopefully I'll have better results next time :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: glad i can help:icon_smil i made that mistake and messed up a whole crop
dutchman
06-30-2008, 07:01 PM
B.A.C (bacterial activated coctail)
cheers
Weedgrl
07-05-2008, 03:17 AM
I have since switched over to Metanaturals, both veg and flower nutes as well as Liquid Karma.
Switched it again! I now am using the Bio Bizz line. One of these days I'll settle lol.
Delta-9
08-12-2008, 03:55 PM
Switched it again! I now am using the Bio Bizz line. One of these days I'll settle lol.
i heard biobizz is some good shit:thumbsup:
Tap_Water
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm changing again soon.
Gonna give the rest of this QT of Floral Nova a chance but Not Likely to stay. Tap
Ps, I was running Bio Bizz Pryer to the switch and went from 2 Zips to a 1/2 to 3/4. :lmao:
Delta-9
08-13-2008, 12:12 AM
I'm changing again soon.
Gonna give the rest of this QT of Floral Nova a chance but Not Likely to stay. Tap
Ps, I was running Bio Bizz Pryer to the switch and went from 2 Zips to a 1/2 to 3/4. :lmao:
flora nova is good stuff 1 part for veg 1 part flower. nice, simple, and very effective i use other additives along with it but its not needed
Tap_Water
08-13-2008, 04:26 AM
Glad you like it.
I just cant see why I went from Growing Weed to Wishing I was.:lmao:
It's gotta be nutes.
Like I said I'm gonna finish the Bottle and I am back on some other shit on a few to see whats up.
I'll stop Growing MJ if I can only grow a 1/2 to 3/4 OZ and that is a fact.
Hell, I can buy MJ cheaper then I'm growing it at this rate.LOL
I have been uping the dose but half every watering isn't doing much as of late?? I'll hit them with some more but I have seen a bit of Saw tooth already. Tap
Delta-9
08-13-2008, 02:24 PM
are you using anything else with it i use a few supplemental nutes this is what i use along with the flora nova works great for me:icon_smil
FLORALICIOUS PLUS ™
Super Concentrated Nutrient Enhancer
Its all in there! Floralicious Plus is a super concentrated blend of plant, marine, and mineral extracts. Floralicious Plus is a one part nutrient additive to be used throughout the plants growing cycle
Floralicious Plus enhances mineral nutrient uptake and transport in your plants. The active carbon technology facilitates the conversion and biosynthesis of complex secondary aromatic compounds. Floralicious Plus enhances metabolic growth, promotes flower development, encourages fruit swelling, and facilitates essential oil production. Floralicious Plus will also encourage beneficial microbial activity in the root zone.
Floralicious Plus means plants with incredible flavor and extraordinary yield!
Technaflora MagiCal
a highly enriched formulated blend of Magnesium, Calcium and Iron, that promotes vigorous and healthy plant growth for both soil and soiless gardens.
Incorporated in your regular feeding program MagiCal increases flower bud absorption and improves the nutritional quality of plants while correcting nutrient related plant deficiencies such as grape stem rot, grass tetany, tip burn in lettuce, blackheart in celery, blossom end rot in tomato or watermelon and bitter pit in apple.
In addition to correcting nutrient deficiencies, MagiCal also accelerates protein syntheses, maintains high starch content in crops, improves the density of fruit and the production of essential oils, creates lush and greener foliage, and maintains a healthy root system.
Designed for universal application, and tested to work in conjunction with any premium brand of nutrients in our industry, MagiCal is for customers whose gardens require bolstered levels of Magnesium and/or Calcium. MagiCal is scientifically formulated to make extra Magnesium and Calcium readily available during vigorous plant development. These elements are highly essential and can often times be deficient in both soil and hydroponic systems.
Completely soluble and clear of any sediment, MagiCal will mix with ease into any solution providing an instantly available source of required nutrients.
Technaflora Sugar Daddy
The unique combinations of ingredients in SugarDaddy are vital for all stages of plant growth and development. During the seedling stage SugarDaddy rapidly accelerates sprout growth and prepares plants for transplanting. During the vegetative stage SugarDaddy promotes strong plant structure which is a critical precursor to final yield success.
Of maximum benefit during both transition and reproduction, SugarDaddy fosters healthy stage progression by limiting detrimental transition related stressors. Further, the lower nitrogen levels often found in flowering stage fertilizers are overcome by the use of SugarDaddy; as carbohydrate, protein, and fatty acid synthesis is achieved vigorous growth rates are maintained along with the production of essential oils and the aroma value of flower buds and fruits.
Compatible for use with all Technaflora products or premium quality soluble fertilizer. SugarDaddy is suitable for use in soil, soiless and hydroponic based gardening mediums.
Botanicare Liquid Karma Biological Plant Growth Catalyst Quart
* Liquid Karma functions as a growth machine because its high metabolic activity produces a large amount of energy which is immediately transformed to growth
* Contains 7 major groups of nutrients based on their specific effects on plant growth and development
o Fermented compost solution that produces luxuriant vegetative growth, huge flowers and flavorful fruits and vegetables
o Amino Acids that serve as building blocks for structural proteins and enzymes
o Vitamins which are extremely beneficial because they function as co-factors for enzymes involved in carbohydrate metabolism and the biosynthesis of macromolecules
o Plant Extracts containing high levels of auxins and cytokinins for successful plant micropropagation (tissue culture)
o Humic Acid that stimulates the growth of roots, shoots and flowers
o seaweed extract that contains metabolically active carbohydrates, complex carbohydrates, minerals such as cobalt, strontium and iodine, and growth substances that are known to be beneficial for plantgrowth
o Carbohydrates that provide the added burst of energy required to assinilate and metabolize all the ingredients present in Liquid Karma
* Use through all growing stages with your preferred plant nutrient
also 2 drops of superthrive per gallon
i get 2-4 oz. depending on the strain but im using alot of additives:thumbsup:
Tap_Water
08-13-2008, 09:57 PM
I was told that was all I needed.
I did go back to adding shit back into a few to see what gives.
Gonna have to go back to buying sugar water I'm thinking. AKA Bio Bizz.
The plants still stay Green all the way to 8-12 weeks just like before and I'm only running 1/4 to 1/2 tbls of bloom.
I have noticed amber come on a week earlier for the most part but whats a week if I'm getting 1/3 of the yeild I was.
It's an easy fix I say. Just go back to what was working.HAHAHAHA
I'm gonna keep pumping up the dose on the FN to see if thats what it is but have been for a month now. 1/2 tble and full ones as I dip the messuring spoon in and it heaps up.
I do get some saw toothing and a bit of burnt spots from time to time but not bad.
Anyhow, What works for some don't always work for others. ;) :thumbsup: : pipe: Tap
Delta-9
08-13-2008, 11:07 PM
I was told that was all I needed.
I did go back to adding shit back into a few to see what gives.
Gonna have to go back to buying sugar water I'm thinking. AKA Bio Bizz.
The plants still stay Green all the way to 8-12 weeks just like before and I'm only running 1/4 to 1/2 tbls of bloom.
I have noticed amber come on a week earlier for the most part but whats a week if I'm getting 1/3 of the yeild I was.
It's an easy fix I say. Just go back to what was working.HAHAHAHA
I'm gonna keep pumping up the dose on the FN to see if thats what it is but have been for a month now. 1/2 tble and full ones as I dip the messuring spoon in and it heaps up.
I do get some saw toothing and a bit of burnt spots from time to time but not bad.
Anyhow, What works for some don't always work for others. ;) :thumbsup: : pipe: Tap
hey i guess if it works for ya than pump them ladies full of it:icon_smil :thumbsup:
I have been using the FN bloom thru the whole grow at 8 to 10 ml every other feeding with some good yeilds. The taste lacks a bit compared to Pure Blend which I am going back to. So now I use Pure Blend Pro with Liquid Karma, with some other stuff, like root hormones, carbs, and prozyme. I also am starting some on the Humbolt County Organic soil line.
Delta-9
08-24-2008, 01:12 AM
ive been using Flora products but just made a change for this grow to Bio Bizz Bio Bloom and ALG-A-MIC i have happy frog soil witch i will mix around 60/40
40% soiless mix 60 happy frog that should have enough juice to get thru veg without adding nutes :thumbsup: then the Bio Bizz and AAM
HappyJay
09-26-2008, 08:41 PM
As you know, I have just kicked back into gear so went down to the local and baught some new flavours. First of all I grabbed the complete range of the old Canna, just as I know it works alright, then I managed to find the GH 3 part series, hygrozyme and flourilisious plus, I already have the PK 13/14) but that was all he had in the range of what you seem to be running. Ill drop a few pm's to you soon to Useless as to pick the mad scientists brain. Will be ordering a couple new packs of beans tomorrow after work and have set up a nice new recirculating bubble system.
Good to see ya brother, hope all is well down under.
BlazingImmortals
09-27-2008, 03:46 AM
Bio Bizz
Tap_Water
09-27-2008, 04:58 AM
Its a 400 dollar secret. HEHEHE
I'll let you know if and when I hit 4 zips in soil. HEHEHEHE Tap
CANNABOYD
09-28-2008, 11:24 PM
il try anything to get good bud as long as its ORGANIC. :icon_smil ;)
Sensi-man
10-03-2008, 05:54 AM
i heard biobizz is some good shit:thumbsup:
Its done me proud ever since i switched over to it.I buy bio-bizz organic pre mixed soil from the local grow shop and add some vermiculite and lime to it if i cant be arsed actually making my own PROPER organic medium which is mostly always,lol..
I also use their bio grow for vegging and their bud bloom and topmax for the two stages of flowering and sometimes i use their alga mic foliar spray aswell although not as much as the rest .Iv had great results with my grows using bio-bizz organics although i would LOVE to have more time to create a PROPER ORGANIC ENVIROMENT aka microorganisms,etc but if like me you just like to keep it simple or are too stoned to be arsed half the time then i totally reccomend bio-bizz:icon_smil
supercharged
12-04-2008, 10:20 PM
what seemes to work for is flora bloom ,flora grow ,sweet ,,karma ,super thrive , bat guano 1-10-0.2 every thing nice n green:animbong:
Delta-9
12-05-2008, 02:06 PM
Its done me proud ever since i switched over to it.I buy bio-bizz organic pre mixed soil from the local grow shop and add some vermiculite and lime to it if i cant be arsed actually making my own PROPER organic medium which is mostly always,lol..
I also use their bio grow for vegging and their bud bloom and topmax for the two stages of flowering and sometimes i use their alga mic foliar spray aswell although not as much as the rest .Iv had great results with my grows using bio-bizz organics although i would LOVE to have more time to create a PROPER ORGANIC ENVIROMENT aka microorganisms,etc but if like me you just like to keep it simple or are too stoned to be arsed half the time then i totally reccomend bio-bizz:icon_smil
i agree i like the bio-bizz products but i feed the plants very lite because i mix my own organic mix i use soiless mix with high N bat and sea bird guano's,
worm castins, and lime. and for flower i replace the high N guano's
with high P-K bat guano's and feed lite with molasses, Bio-Bizz Bio Bloom, Botanicare organic Pure Blend Pro Bloom, and Alg-A-Mic
midnitefarmer
12-05-2008, 06:23 PM
Ive been using ff nutes for a couple years now,,,,im gonna give the bio-bizz a shot when the ff runs out...:bongdude:
Tap_Water
12-21-2008, 09:44 AM
Looks like we got away from Hydro on this one but nutes are nutes.
I hate Floral Nova but love me Boi Bizz.HEHEHEHEHEHE Tap
Edward Scissorhash
12-22-2008, 06:28 PM
GH 3-part (hardwater micro), cal-mag supp. sometimes, no ph up or down and using 8.0 out of the tap:bongdude:
HappyJay
12-22-2008, 10:27 PM
Looks like Im going to have to look into the hardwater GH nutes, our water here sucks. That or get myself a rain water tank or one of these RO machines/filters.
Is the cal/mag gear used in the ferts regieme for hardwater or to add the extra calcium, magnesium etc. into filtered water?
hygrade
01-03-2009, 04:32 PM
i use gh 3 part, cal mag and tapwater also,i have always used sodium bisulfate for ph down but i just switched to gh ph down yesterday,wondering if i'm causing extra salt build up being as the old stuff was sodium.i'm thinking of trying botanicare's pro blend to see if things get any better,though the gh works great.i also use fox farms soluble additives during flower in small amounts.i'm not sure on the hardwater micro hj,i think it has less calcium to compensate for the hardwater,but that may be wrong.
greenthumbdanny
01-18-2009, 07:14 AM
i use gh 3 part, cal mag and tapwater also,i have always used sodium bisulfate for ph down but i just switched to gh ph down yesterday,wondering if i'm causing extra salt build up being as the old stuff was sodium.i'm thinking of trying botanicare's pro blend to see if things get any better,though the gh works great.i also use fox farms soluble additives during flower in small amounts.i'm not sure on the hardwater micro hj,i think it has less calcium to compensate for the hardwater,but that may be wrong.
LMAO.. Nice fuckin avatar bro.:D That ShamWow mo fo. If I see him, im punching him in the nose. LOL
hygrade
01-19-2009, 10:52 PM
That ShamWow mo fo. If I see him, im punching him in the nose. LOL
man save that shit for that dude that was holding out you on the hash blunt wraps! don't hate vince for making you want to buy his crap,thats the power of shamwow! lol,i just put it up because i see that bastard every 7 minutes no matter what channel i'm watching so i figured i'd make everyone else look at him too.he's one ugly cat,huh?
on the nutes,since switching the ph down,i have much less salt build up on the outsides of my buckets and my plants do kind of seem healthier but that could just be my imagination.:bongdude:
Don de Marco
01-20-2009, 08:17 AM
:lol:
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/7/6/4/2711615421_2e98181ce8.jpg
greenthumbdanny
01-20-2009, 09:20 AM
Nah I love my sham WOW that I got for christmas..:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :animbong:
I use it as a bath mat to. And to dry my truck.. dig it man :D
Don is that the Sham WOW mo fo too??
Don de Marco
01-20-2009, 09:36 AM
Nah I love my sham WOW that I got for christmas..:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :animbong:
I use it as a bath mat to. And to dry my truck.. dig it man :D
Don is that the Sham WOW mo fo too??
Does look pretty much like it, doesn't it?
Edward Scissorhash
01-25-2009, 09:05 AM
Dudes the shamwow is for real. You'll be saying wow everytime you use this towel. Made in Germany, you know the germans always make good stuff.....
Seriously though, Vince shreds all over Billy Mays. Even though Billy's facial hair can withstand storm-force winds......
LordOfTheWeeds
01-25-2009, 09:23 AM
i just saw that on tv not more than 10 mins ago.... he got that coke completely out of that piece of carpet.. drys everything in seconds wow!
maybe clip your budds and roll it in a shamwow? instant dry smoke? WOW
Edward Scissorhash
01-25-2009, 09:42 AM
Its like a chamois, its like a towel, its like a sponge, NO other towel can do this.....
Edward Scissorhash
01-25-2009, 11:25 AM
Looks like Im going to have to look into the hardwater GH nutes, our water here sucks. That or get myself a rain water tank or one of these RO machines/filters.
Is the cal/mag gear used in the ferts regieme for hardwater or to add the extra calcium, magnesium etc. into filtered water?
Hygrade you're right. I think. From what I've been told the hardwater micro contains 80% less calcium than the regular micro.
Jay, I was just using the cal-mag when I had signs of a deficiency. I have since added it in as a regular part of my nute program along with some other botanicare supps. Heres my schedule, listed as micro, grow, bloom. Quantities are per gallon:
Cuts/seedlings-
2.5ml of each micro, grow, bloom until root
M G B
Week 1: 5ml/10ml/2.5ml
+ 2ml Cal-Mag, 2.5ml silica blast sometimes lol, 5ml liquid karma
Week 2: 7.5ml/15ml/5ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 5ml silica blast, 10ml liquid karma
Week 3: 7.5ml/7.5ml/7.5ml
+7.5ml cal mag, 5ml silica blast, 10ml liquid karma
START FLOWER
week 4: 7.5ml/5ml/10ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma
Week 5: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 6: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+2.5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 7: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+2.5ml Cal-Mag, 5ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 8: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
2.5ml Hydroplex
Week 9: Flush, I use 15ml clearex for two days and then I just use adjusted water until they finish.
I also flush my res overnight with clearex in between nute changes.
Tap_Water
02-09-2009, 02:25 AM
i just saw that on tv not more than 10 mins ago.... he got that coke completely out of that piece of carpet.. drys everything in seconds wow!
maybe clip your budds and roll it in a shamwow? instant dry smoke? WOW
I like how the carpet is soaked to the bone and the next shot its a small circle in the middle. Notice next time you see it that it's running out the sides of the carpet.
I'm sure the towels work well but to lie to PPL to get 19.95 from them is wrong.
I'm gonna buy 20 bucks worth of paper towels anyways so why do i need a shame wow. Tap
chameleon
02-09-2009, 05:56 AM
i use GH 3pt with diamond nector and r/o water every 7 days check out the pics (there all fucked but you can view all its easier sorry) ill be posting new on wed you cant even see the container anymore 18 gal rubbermaid..........
Don de Marco
02-09-2009, 08:06 AM
right cham, get this topic back on track :thumbsup:
greenthumbdanny
02-09-2009, 09:46 AM
Ed by golly, I might give this gimmick a rip of yours.
Hygrade you're right. I think. From what I've been told the hardwater micro contains 80% less calcium than the regular micro.
Jay, I was just using the cal-mag when I had signs of a deficiency. I have since added it in as a regular part of my nute program along with some other botanicare supps. Heres my schedule, listed as micro, grow, bloom. Quantities are per gallon:
Cuts/seedlings-
2.5ml of each micro, grow, bloom until root
M G B
Week 1: 5ml/10ml/2.5ml
+ 2ml Cal-Mag, 2.5ml silica blast sometimes lol, 5ml liquid karma
Week 2: 7.5ml/15ml/5ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 5ml silica blast, 10ml liquid karma
Week 3: 7.5ml/7.5ml/7.5ml
+7.5ml cal mag, 5ml silica blast, 10ml liquid karma
START FLOWER
week 4: 7.5ml/5ml/10ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma
Week 5: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 6: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+2.5ml Cal-Mag, 10ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 7: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
+2.5ml Cal-Mag, 5ml liquid karma, 5ml Hydroplex
Week 8: 7.5ml/5ml/15ml
2.5ml Hydroplex
Week 9: Flush, I use 15ml clearex for two days and then I just use adjusted water until they finish.
I also flush my res overnight with clearex in between nute changes.
Delta-9
02-14-2009, 09:02 PM
i went from GH 3-part to Bio-Bizz:thumbsup: the Bio Grow, Fish mix, and Alg-A-Mic all 3 do stink but the plants seem to love it.:icon_smil im feeding at 1/4 of the recommended dose since there in a lite mix of pro-mix, worm castins, bat & sea bird guano's, lime, and epsom salt.
i will say that if i go back to hydro i will use the GH 3-part its very simple to use
Phillie
03-27-2009, 03:14 AM
Hi all, im a new first time grower and i have lots to learn. I have not yet started my grow because ive been slowly setting up my box. It is A little less the 2ft. x 1ft. x a little less than 4ft. I know this is very small but i plan to get this done. I only plan to grow 2 plants...excited to grow any period as ive wanted to for years. I made a drip system out of a 16" x 10" x10" container and wrapped it in panda film and it has two pods. I plan on using some fluoros for veg and a 150w hps for flower. This is alot of information as i started this for nute info but any advice would be greatly appreciated because i do not yet have 1 grow under my belt. I read the basic nutes page but that didnt quite do it for me. I was wondering the specific nutes i need. I know everyone uses their own and opinions would be greatly appreciated too but i found out its not just nutes its also additives and certain times during certain cycles these diff additives are used. Anyone willing to school a newbie on all this it would be greatly appreciated. I told myself i wont spark up until its my own :eek: so im really eager to get going so i can can be :blaze: once again.
HappyJay
03-27-2009, 10:31 AM
Cheers Ed, ended up getting my hydro guy to order some Cal-mag in but he couldnt get quite that brand, (or they changed there name or sumthin) and got cal-max, is basicall the same thing I figure when I read it.
Phillie, sounds like your on your way man. Depends on personal preference and bank account as some ferts do well, some dont, some do better then others in soil/hydro, some dont. Some growers like chemicals, some like fully organic, (even though most chem ferts are made from natural salts anyways???), but yeh, all personal preference and the different brands, can come with vastly different price tags. Once all this has been resolved, its then a matter if your willing to order offline or what stock your local store has.
Im pretty sure if you have a good read through a couple of these threads, you should find a general concensus on whats getting around.
Now.
Ended up installing a rainwater tank, everything has gone back to good, didnt end up needing the cal-max anyways. Stocked up on some 5l Canna Aqua ferts as was pretty happy so far with the results. Girls made it to week 5 before I stuffed the fert schedual and needed ph adjusters.
Went and ran tray 2 with Useless's formula for the GH 3part, man thats done it for me. 16" girls so far, a little over 2 weeks from straight flipped 3" cuts sunbathing under a 400. Healthy as hell, thick, flowers starting to form well and not a single drop of PH adjuster used yet.
For the Canna am running the works at the moment but next round will tweak to a KISS canna program using only Aqua flores and rhiz, 13/14 for additives when needed.
For the GH trays am running the GH 3part for additives am using hygrozyme, and koolbloom, (though have a sample of this wicked other stuff in the mail to try first).
Have started using pro-silicate at half strength aswell in both systems.
I dare say after the Canna stockpile runs out, it will be switch to all GH as the stuff really does rock.
da420king
03-08-2011, 10:16 PM
i have really good luck with advanced 3 part the ph perfect and chelates make it super stable: pipe:
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