reclassification U.K.

[CANNABOYD]

U.K. reclassifies cannabis to a class B despite recomendation from scientists to keep it class C. this could really back fire on the goverment. ignoring expert opinion is risky. these people are elected to do a job and take all "advice on offer" and make the best "decicion for all" concerned. they will lose the next election for sure as they reckon theirs at least 5 million budd tokers in the U.K. alone. and most of them vote labour. talk about wasting tax payers money. :stumped:

[Useless]

Did Brownie actually do it? I know that he has said that he would push for reclassification despite what the medical board says about it.
Has it in fact been reclassified?

[<CANTTHINKOFAUSERNAME>]

up, down, up down, its like a bastard yo yo

[CANNABOYD]

Did Brownie actually do it? I know that he has said that he would push for reclassification despite what the medical board says about it.
Has it in fact been reclassified?

cannabis in the U.K. is now in the process of being reclassified to a class b. sorry to be a bringer of bad news. :confused:

[Stash]

whats the difference over there ?

[Useless]

Stash, here we have Schedule 1,2,3, etc. With 1 being the current classification along with heroin, cocaine etc.
Over there they have Class A,B,C . With A being the those drugs with no medicinal value, just like our schedule 1. MJ in the UK was for a long time schedule B. Then under Tony Blair, it was reclassified to schedule C based on scientific studies and the recommendtion of the UK's version of the Surgeon General which is a medical review board consisting of a group of physicians and scientists. I'm sorry I forget the name.

Cannaboyd,
Gord-o said a while ago he going to fight for reclassification back to schedule B. But as far as I know, the reclassification has not been done.
I was asking if you had any new information, that in fact, MJ has now been re-reclassified. The statement you made is devoid of any tangible information. How far along "in process" is it? For that matter, what is the exact process? Can you post some links for us on the other side of the pond to review?
My point is that just because Brownie said he wants to do it, doesn't mean it has been done.
Cheers!

[Stash]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Use

[CANNABOYD]

heres a link on it http://uk.news.yahoo.com.rtrs/20080507/tpl-uk-britain-cannabis-39349ed.htm :blazed:


*edited to fix link*

[Useless]

Thanks for the link CB. It was missing the "p" in "http". However, it still comes up with web site not found?
Will see if I can correct it.


Hey man, tried a few things, but the link no worky.

[Useless]

Well, after some further reading I found this quote about it -


According to news today 7/5/08

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has defied the Government's own experts by announcing that laws on cannabis will be toughened up.
Ms Smith said the drug must be upgraded from Class C to Class B to avoid "risking the future health of young people".
The move comes despite the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) concluding that the health dangers from cannabis did not justify its inclusion in the higher category.
A report from the group said scientific evidence pointed to a "probable, but weak, causal link between psychotic illness, including schizophrenia, and cannabis use".
However, in the population as a whole, the drug played only a "modest role" in the development of these conditions.
Ms Smith told the Commons that, despite the experts' conclusions, the Government was determined to "err on the side of caution".
"I have given the council's report careful consideration," she said. "Of the council's 21 recommendations I accept all bar those relating to classification.
"I have decided to reclassify cannabis to a Class B drug, subject to Parliamentary approval."
She added: "There is a compelling case for us to act now rather than risk the future health of young people.
"Where there is a clear and serious problem, but doubt about the harm that will be caused, we must err on the side of caution and protect the public. I make no apology for that - I am not prepared to 'wait and see'.

[Stash]

sigh* some peoples good intentions make things worse

[CANNABOYD]

just go to "yahoo news search" and type in reclassification. it brings up a whole load of stuff on tthe class b deciecion by the brittish gov. :bongdude:

[MigrowGrower]

Its fucking sick....

Changing laws back and forth willy-nilly as you see fit is just another example of the true Facism of our "Democratic" leaders. I truly am sick and tired of all this fucking bullshit! :mad:

GB can kiss my ass. He is an insult to the Glaswegian people! He should visit Easterhouse with no backup and say that out loud to the poor people living there and he would be hung, drawn and quartered!

I been speaking to a few friends back home and they aint very happy.

GRRRRRRRRRRRR :argue: :mad: :argue: :mad: :argue: GB>>>>> :shark: <<<<< Pissed OFF Glaswegian People! :fucku: :fucku: :fucku: :fucku: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[Useless]

Well I have read a lot about this little bit.
Its based on propaghanda. Did you guys see or read about that bimbo reporter who spent a month in A-dam smoking pot everyday? She obviously had mental health issues prior to smoking. SHe said she would smoke some "super potent, nothing like it" skunk, and have paranoia, anxiety etc. SHe said it made her reclusive and and with no ambition. SHe also said the skunk made her feel as if she was crazy and going through psychosis.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- Skunk is not super pot and this bitch obviously had mental health issues prior to smoking any pot.

But, the ramifications of the report (was shown on BBC 3 I think) scared the unknowing public into thinking that indeed pot could cause psychosis in anyone, and that pot is somewhere between 10,100, or 1000 times more potent than landrace cultivars.

The ACMD (thanks for the name drop since I forgot MG) has said there is no reason for reclassification, that MJ does not have the potential for harm as indicated by the pro reclassification movement.

Heres the problem -
Pot is not 1000x more potent, nor does it conatian 1000 times more THC.
Not even close. 100x? Dont think so.
10x? Only if they are comparing feral hemp with < 2% THC. Landrace drug cultivars are on average about 3.5-5% THC. Using gas chromatography StSM has tested his skunk lines at about 12-16%. Some say g-13 was 23% thc. And even some bullshit artists like GHS that try to claim 30% thc still arent at 10x the strength.
A second gigantic flaw in the report is that you take a person who has never smoked pot and then give them a dose equal to that of a daily smoker (full joints she was toking, I dont remember how much she bought per day) of course they are going to have a bad reaction, especially if they are mentally unstable to begin with. I mean if I never had a drink, and then drank a 12 pack everyday, I'd be sick as dog for a month, lethargic and with no motivation. Same deal here, just change out the drug. Weed is not for everyone.

The bright side is the ACMP didnt buy into the bullshit.
The reclassification is based on propaganda, and fear mongering. Period.


As a side note, as I was writing this post, I saw a report on the news claiming that teenagers who suffer from depression are 60% more likely to have smoked pot in the last month, and 40% of those who have smoked pot have suicidal thoughts. So, essentially because of pot we should have a bunch of reclusive, depressed, lethargic, suicidal teens running around. Funny, when I was young and depressed, smoking a joint made me happy and gave me the ability to laugh in the face of trying times. Maybe someone should consider that the drug use is a result of the depression, not the other way around.
Seems your british scare tactics (which you borrowed from good ol GW lol) are making full circle back here to the US.

[GrassChopper]

Being from the UK myself, Mr. Brown's change to the class of MJ from C up to B was a big kick in the balls to me.

I had been tokin' up in the Blair era which was all gravy and there wasn't much to argue with, other than the patriotic "Legalize" chant that everyone who smokes the green has, haha. :blaze:

A few moons or so after the raise in classification and THIS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7596604.stm) happens near me. I had a period (Just over 1 week) where it was hard to acquire any at all and I was forced to buy solids, ('Cos I'm very impatient haha).

But yeah, all in all, a pointless and stupid move on Brown's part and alot of people here in the UK are very unsettled by this. Bring back Blair! :uk:

Btw the documentary Useless was on about is called "Superskunk Me"
I watched this and it was just crap, the woman had no idea on what she was doing, what she was talking about and just came straight into it and binged a load of it and the views shown on it were completely bias.
Total Bullshit, if you wanna get pissed off very quickly I recommend you watch it... If you don't its just not worth the hassle (I did try to find a link but failed-ass as BBC iPlayer didn't have it)

::Grass::

[EvilSkuzzi]

I saw that doc. It wasnt too bad for a 40 year old women lol.

The bit that was stupid and put the shits up ppl was the clinical trial. They give her an injection of THC mixed with other cannanboloids (fook spelling lol). They said this was like smoking less potent pot. Like in the good old days. Then they injected her with 95% proof THC. She freaked out.

So the fuck would I!!!!!!

Then they sort of made it sound like the new "super skunk" had this sort of effect. Errr ok.


Well all i can say is my super super super skunk is even stronger and should be class A!!!!!!!