1st Time coco grow.....

[midnitefarmer]

These are my next run.....Ive switched to coco w about 10 percent perlite one week ago today and am fully sold so far,,,im using botanicare coco and monkey juice grow and bloom will be the nutes.......im handwatering so far but may change that....i plan on topping and then vegging these for another week or two,,,then transplant and flower....im really amazed at the growth rate....

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[SFC]

It is way better than soil, I will say that much. Next time your at the hydro store check out the "profit disc" brand coco. Really chunky,and easier to work with compared to Botanicare.

[Useless]

Looking very nice MF. :thumbsup:
Coco can give you almost hydro results as far prolific growth. The only thing to remember is it inherently contains P. So less P is required in your nutrient formula. I know your running coco specific nutes, and we discussed this in shout the other day, so that was more for everyone else using coco.

Im running some coco buckets as well. In my previous attempt with coco I had a P overdose, flushed thourgoughly (coco flushes very easily) and things turned around in about 72 hours.
I have seen a lot of coco guys going with 0-6-9 of the 3 part, and that modification seems to adjust for the excess P. I will be using that formula on the coco during flower.

Anyways, how about giving us a line up/ roster of the ladies in the stable? They are looking quite sexy.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Very nice MF.....I have never used coco so I will be watching for updates.:pics:

Keep up the good work
Bilbo
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[$mokedOut]

looking real good over there never used that stuff but I'm very interested in it so i will be pulling a chair up for this grow if there is room for me: p lol love the plants they are standing tall and strong :thumbsup: grow on :icon_smil

[Delta-9]

looking great they seem to be loving it:thumbsup: after watching this grow i might use some in a side by side with my organic mix see they difference but your ladies are looking great keep up the great work:icon_smil :icon_smil

[Skunky]

I'm kinda interested in seeing how a hempy would do next to coco. I think it would be about the same. Would be interesting to see the results though. Wish I could find a small bit of coco around here just to try and see how it does next to 100% perlite. Anyways plants look great! Can't wait to see some update pics of these beauties.

[Useless]

A little off topic here, but skunky Im running coco in hempy style buckets trying to compare it to a medium called fytocell I am testing. Also running some dwc right next to them. Not a true hempy I guess, since Im not using the perilite, but should still prove to be an interesting comparison.


Hows about an update MF?

[midnitefarmer]

Thanks for all the interest folks...:animbong: ...Sorry havent updated in a while but ive been REALLY busy the past few months and this grow is my first in a few months so lets get to it.....Its been 8-9 days since the last pics were taken and the growth has been amazing...ive only been doing lite feedings to try control the growth...the only real hiccup so far has been an outbreak of white flies but a no pest strip seems to have gotten that under control.....i had 15 clones going under a 400w for veg and today i transplanted ten of them into 3 gallon pots and put them into flower under th 1k eye....i decided to go with the 3 gal pots only because they will need less watering than smaller ones i hope.......the strains being flowered are ssh,ak-47 and wonderberry,,,,im very familiar with these plants and expect some really good results if all goes well....heres a few pics....:animbong: :animbong: :D

these first two are from today before the transplant....

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This is a 15 day rootball...
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These are after the move to the big light.....
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[SFC]

It is going to get crowded in there:thumbsup: lol

Hey, I don't know how true it is about blackening the buckets/containers, but when I used the same size trash bins I did end up wrapping black poly around them. Just some food for thought. Looking great Midnite:thumbsup:

[Useless]

Looking good MF! (Feeling good Winthorp!) (Sorry, random thought...lol)

Seems to me the bottom center, and bottom left look a little familiar.

Keep us posted on the ladies progress. Porn is always good. :D

[midnitefarmer]

alright...first off sorry for not updating sooner but i had to go out of town for a week and just got back last night...i had to set up a drip system in a hurry for my plants to survive for the seven days i was gonna be gone...well that didnt leave me much time to dial it in and so i didnt set the timer to water long enuf i think and some of the plants that are directly under the light may have dried out a bit too much and caused some sort of toxicity and or they are hungry maybe,,,, but there is some yellowing on those plants....either way i will get it sorted out...all in all the drip system did its job and kept the plants alive for me.... heres a few pics...these plants have been in flower for 18 days...also in the last couple of pics there a three plants that have been flower for about 24 days...they are in coco as well....:animbong:

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[Useless]

:icon_smil :thumbsup:

[Delta-9]

those plants look awsome seems switching to coco was a good idea.;) makes me want to give it a try :icon_smil :icon_smil keep up the great work:thumbsup:
is thats serious seeds AK-47 i grew it once crazy bud production lb. per plant at 5 ft. tall

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Looking great MF.....one piece of advice if I may.......

In the second to last pic ^^ I see your power bar lying on the floor. :eek:
This can be a real hazard if water comes in contact with it. Try to always have your power hook-ups higher than your pots to avoid accidental contact.

Great looking grow MF.....Coco seems to be working very well for you!!

Till next time
Bilbo
:icon_smil

[midnitefarmer]

Thanks for looking out BB:thumbsup: .....i had been moving a few things around and hadnt put it up before snapping......:pics:

[BlowsTrees]

looking tight there MF'er:thumbsup: :woohaa:

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Hey MF.....glad to see that the power bar was just out of place for the :pics:

Lookin good MF...should have some good bud from this grow!!

Till next time
Bilbo
:blazed:

[midnitefarmer]

i think i have a major k def...il post up pics for opinions and advice this evening....: p

[midnitefarmer]

k def?

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[midnitefarmer]

wtf...no opinions....:lite:

[Don de Marco]

wtf...no opinions....:lite:
ph? Looks like it's not in the range - maybe in the upper region and salt build up in the leaves. I'm not familiar with your brands. And I'm usually not good at diagnostics from afar. The picture is good tho.

[midnitefarmer]

ph? Looks like it's not in the range - maybe in the upper region and salt build up in the leaves. I'm not familiar with your brands. And I'm usually not good at diagnostics from afar. The picture is good tho.

Thanks for looking in ddm....i adjust my ph to 5.7 or 5.8 range...and the highest the ec has gone is 1.1 the plants condition seems to worsen with a flush....

[Don de Marco]

and the run off?

[SFC]

Man, I am sorry Midnite , I have just been busy as hell. But Hey , I have had plenty of the same type of shit, and the plants usually come out Okay. Probably a ph shift. Mine really jumped around last grow.

[midnitefarmer]

ddm...i dont have a clue as to run off ph....ive never tested it....thanks for the look in and help!:thumbsup:

sfc...im not sure what the problem or problems are/were...they seem to have leveled off at this point and dont seem to be getting any worse, i started feeding some beastie bloomz from fox farm which has a very high pk content and they seemed to like that....these plants are nute hogs in soil and i really didnt know how they would react in a different medium but i guess they are still hogs...i also had to set off a p-bomb which has set me back about a week as far as growth goes....ill post the pics later tonite...

[solo]

What leaves on the plant are affected with that "burn". When I first looked at it, it looked like something was sprayed on them and absorbed into them. I have seen that exact burn from many different insect sprays including P bombs. it usually is worse towards the top where the light is most intense. Have you been spraying anything before the P bomb was set off. I assume this buren was before the P bomb. If the plants are put back under the lights with that "shiney" treated look there goingtot absorb it in, and thats not good. Good luck with the grow looks good.

[midnitefarmer]

Thanks for looking solo.....yeah the "burn" started before the p-bomb....i went away for a week and set the plants on a timer to water and didnt set it to run long enough and when i got back they had really yellowed up under the light like you mentioned.....i think that allowing the coco to dry out too much may have caused a little toxic build up in the cooo.....i looked at alot of sick plant guides and came up with the k def idea.....either way ill be glad to get this one over with and start another...:rasta2:

[midnitefarmer]

well,,,everything still looks like a big pile of shit...but it smells real nice....my yield is not gonna be anything close to what im accustomed to but that is my own fault....im gonna do my next grow in dirt but i will be back to try the coco again when i have access to better water and drainage.....

[Useless]

Well, how about some pics kimosobe? :D

Shame you had those problems. It happens to the best of us though. Sometimes you can fight it all you want, and still not come out choice. But its part of the game, everyone pays their dues.

[SFC]

Yep, We all have been there. But don't give up in your migration away from soil brother. You will hit a few road bumps on the way, but in the end you will be rewarded with big fat buds.:thumbsup:

[midnitefarmer]

I definitely wont give up on the coco...ill be back....but heres a few pics of how not to do it....:thumbsup: :eek:

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[Delta-9]

how far into flowering were they. and what caused all the leaves to die. it looks like you will end up with something. id make some hash :D

[midnitefarmer]

wassup delta...the majority are about 7wks in and there are 3 upfront that are pushing 8 wks.....as far as the dead leaves...my best geuss at this point is that the plants were starving the whole time....ill definitely get some usable buds....thats 13 plants...no way im gonna make hash outta all of it......:rasta2:

[Don de Marco]

Actually I'm selecting for coco-compatible plants. Maybe you'd like to try theese.

[midnitefarmer]

Actually I'm selecting for coco-compatible plants. Maybe you'd like to try theese.

Ill take all the help i can get ddm and i really appreciate it....when i get back to the coco ill give ya a shout:thumbsup: .....

Also it is with great gladness that i put an end to all this misery today...:rip: :lite:

im gonna clean up and get after it again but in soil this time....the clones are rooted and waiting so i should be back in action fairly quickly...also germed six seeds of shit and they are all above ground and looking fine.....thanks for checking out my disaster.....:peace:

[gnarly]

coco..... coco...

coco.....

There should be a tutorial somewhere about some form of exact method for growing in coco to produce a SAFE grow that won't screw up. That way all the new guys can follow it and refine the method to suit their own strains/setup/needs.

This thread, and others i've seen, are the source of my fears for ever touching coco. I just don't think I'd do it right, and I don't want downtime when I'm not planning on it.

Midnite: I hope the smoke is still ok. Those buds still look salvageable for some kind of smokin. If it really is 'that bad', you could definitely make a lot of hash like delta said.

[Useless]

Use the GH 3 part for coco. A modified Lucas formula of 0-6-9 ml/gal. (Grow/Micro/Bloom) adjusts it for the K in the coco.

Shit happens MF. But the buds look decent, so hopefully you get some good smoke still.
Let me know how you like the girls.

[SFC]

I would have to go back and see what nutes I used, but I basically used a mix of soil based,and hydro nutes if I recall. But regardless, if you total weight ends up being halfway decent I wouldn't let some burned up leaves bother me much. At least you know the plants have flushed themselves good if they are eating up their own leaves.

[midnitefarmer]

I pulled down my first coco harvest and am WELL pleased....i said i wouldnt give up on coco and am dam glad i didnt...i made the complete switch to coco about 3 months ago and dont plan on looking back....heres a few shots...all fed dutchmaster gold nutes with some fulvic and hygrozyme thrown in....drain to waste.....:animbong:

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