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Captsneak
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
are the peat pellets medium,like coconut fiber,they both expand when wet.

nowherefast
05-04-2009, 11:44 PM
yeah the peat pellets expand when ya soak em, they work good. i use the small rockwool cubes to clone in myself just cause i got em figured out and theyre nice n cheap.


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SFC
05-05-2009, 12:41 AM
Rapid Rooters here Captain. They are fail safe as you can get.

Captsneak
05-05-2009, 02:42 PM
thanks ,mates:thumbsup:

marymaryquitecntrary
05-06-2009, 02:31 AM
rapid rooters -they haven't failed me yet. :sparky:

nowherefast
05-06-2009, 03:11 AM
+1 on the rapid rooters bein a good choice as well, for the same reasons, pretty fail safe.


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Edward Scissorhash
05-06-2009, 06:20 AM
+2 on the RR's, they work bitchin.
I use the little RW cubes tho, and some cheap ass Schultz rooting powder from home depot. :bongdude:

midnitefarmer
05-07-2009, 01:45 AM
+3 for the rr's.....ive got a few in some coco at the moment also....:animbong:

greenthumbdanny
05-07-2009, 06:07 AM
Rapid Rooters are a lil on the :gay2: side but work awesome.

My number 1 choice is 1x1 Rockwool cubes.:boss:

:smoke:

Delta-9
05-07-2009, 03:06 PM
after i seen my buddy's EZ-CLONER just a simple Aeroponics machine with neoprene inserts. i think im gonna make one its the simplest system and the roots he gets are amazing and they root very fast. he has run multiple strains threw there and they all root close to 100% with just Clonex.
i figure i can make one for around 40-50$. he hates me cause he goes and gets these pricey systems and a week later i will have made one myself for almost nothing plus i modify it. i find the flaws in his system and make sure i make a better system:thumbsup:

Edward Scissorhash
05-07-2009, 03:57 PM
after i seen my buddy's EZ-CLONER just a simple Aeroponics machine with neoprene inserts. i think im gonna make one its the simplest system and the roots he gets are amazing and they root very fast. he has run multiple strains threw there and they all root close to 100% with just Clonex.
i figure i can make one for around 40-50$. he hates me cause he goes and gets these pricey systems and a week later i will have made one myself for almost nothing plus i modify it. i find the flaws in his system and make sure i make a better system:thumbsup:

Yeah the aero units do work good. I've got a DIY jobbie, cost like $25-30 to make just a straight aero. And yeah it SMOKES those $150+ machines and the diy bubble cloners. Don't use jets and spray inverted, just a tip :pipe:. And no need for clonex or any hormones in the aero brother, just plain old water or a super, super diluted bloom mix if you feel the need.
But TBH after a couple runs they are a PIA compared to just tossing cuts in cubes (i get 100% with the rw, 7-10 days). Lol its another rezzie to change out I guess or another system to have to check, and that means work soooo........

HappyJay
05-07-2009, 04:19 PM
Tried rooting in about everything I can, also done some clones as well,:lol: :lmao:.
Had great success with bubblers then switched to the jiffy pellets for some time now' due to ease & consistency with em. Lately though, I been gettin real lazy and just putting cuts straight to coco and there doing just as healthy, easy as.

Will build an EZ cloner one day, they look so fast and efficient, for now, the jiffies and coco are pretty user friendly and easy.
Just cheacked some AK cuts in straight coco, 14 day up pot and heres how they looked.
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/5/2/cocoroots14days1.jpg
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/5/2/cocoroots12days2.jpg

Given the distance to my local hydro store and the added expence of the jiffies, I can possibly see the coco becoming more frequently used around my garden. Also as Ed stated, the set & forget ease is just great.

/monk\
09-20-2009, 09:31 PM
you can put up to 3 clones in these.Roots within 10 days

HerbalTea
02-18-2010, 02:16 AM
...i find the flaws in his system and make sure i make a better system...
THAT'S the way'n do it! :D:thumbsup:

I have great success with peat plugs m'self, plus I find 'em locally and for dirt cheap. Sometimes I play with the idea of building an aero-cloner though, since it often looks like that's the fastest route to go.

MindzEye
02-18-2010, 01:06 PM
Rockwool for me... It can go into soil or hydro from there...

*LegalizeNature*
06-25-2010, 11:24 AM
ROCKWOOL FTW, honestly speaking out of my ass because I personally don't have any experience myself, but all my buddies who i've seen do tha thang have always put their trust in these :animbong:

Delta-9
06-25-2010, 12:35 PM
ROCKWOOL FTW, honestly speaking out of my ass because I personally don't have any experience myself, but all my buddies who i've seen do tha thang have always put their trust in these :animbong:

JMO but some people do not like them because of the PH fluctuations. so you need to check the PH more often. and others swear by them i guess as long as you no how to use them there great.

but i personally hate them.lol

if i was not using Aero. then i love the Rapid Rooters they seem to stay at the perfect moisture level even when over watered they get rid of excess moisture to encourage faster root growth.

but other than that its Aeroponics all the way!!!! its the fastest and best way i found to root so far. and i have tried many different things to root. :thumbsup::D

it roots in 7-10 days with plain water. if i add Clonex, and a little kool-bloom more like 5-7 days. but it seems to root anything from tiny clones to branches that are 2ft. tall with big woody stems there the size of most peoples plants going into flower. and for some reason the big woody stems rooted faster then the others.:eek:

pic 1 that is a rooted clone just cannot see the roots in the pic. they were heavily rooted in 7 days.
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/hpim3052_1.jpg

pic 2 is a few big clones just planted.
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/hpim3050.jpg

pic 3 is 2 big rooted clone
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/hpim3049.jpg
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/hpim3049_1.jpg

McFarmer
12-09-2010, 11:25 AM
That's incredible now u got me amped to get mine up and running!

Delta-9
12-09-2010, 03:43 PM
yea i was amazed when those huge cuts rooted faster then the smaller cuts.
i always was told and read to use cuts that were smaller stems that are softer and more vegative. but the bigger woodier stems seem to root faster.
not sure but all those huge cuts came off a monster ERSB mother plant.

McFarmer
12-11-2010, 07:36 PM
yea i was amazed when those huge cuts rooted faster then the smaller cuts.
i always was told and read to use cuts that were smaller stems that are softer and more vegative. but the bigger woodier stems seem to root faster.
not sure but all those huge cuts came off a monster ERSB mother plant.

well i think its amazing how this plant has been programmed to keep growing!
good job cant wait to give it a try!!:thumbsup:

Captsneak
11-14-2011, 11:20 PM
yeah the peat pellets expand when ya soak em, they work good. i use the small rockwool cubes to clone in myself just cause i got em figured out and theyre nice n cheap.


:bonghits: A friend of mine took it a step futher and toOk the small cubes ,cut them into 4 smaller pieces,add a drop of cloneX, and BAM!:thumbsup:

McFarmer
11-15-2011, 03:06 PM
aero cloner is the easiest way to clone i find!
10-14 days = fat roots and basicly fool proof love my cloner!:thumbsup:

1shy
11-15-2011, 06:03 PM
aero cloner is the easiest way to clone i find!
10-14 days = fat roots and basicly fool proof love my cloner!:thumbsup:

can you post a picture of a aero cloner,do you need a air pump etc?

McFarmer
11-16-2011, 01:13 PM
sure mine all DIY so here the desighn i snagged from d-9:thumbsup:
you will need the following:

water pump (i use a fountain pump not sure how strong tho you wanna have
enough pressure to spray the nozzels right)
25mm pvc pipe
T fittings
And PVC end caps
nozzels i got mine sent from the usa im sure your hydro store will stock em
container with lid i used a cooler
net pots
nueprene plugs
hole saw

ok so i took a cooler and cut elevn holes in the lid ten for the net pots and plugs and one extra for the pumps power cord!
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/9/9/8/bb_018.jpg
i cut the bottem of the net pots of and stuck the plugs inside of em they fit nice and snug and leak no light or water
you can see the extra hole for the cord this leaks water so i use a bit of shade cloth to cover it this alows the hot air to escape aswell cause the pump creates some heat
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/9/9/8/bb_020.jpg
underside of lid still needed to be cleaned this was taken during contruction
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/9/9/8/bb_021.jpg
then i built and H shape rack from the pvc pipe and fittings wich fits snug onto the top of the pump i drilled 8 small holes and screwed the nozzels in make sure not to drill the holes to big cause they will not sit snug and water will spray out the sides and not the nozzel!
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/9/9/8/bb_019.jpg

cloner in use i get a full bush of roots in ten to 14 days sometimes sooner depending on strain i use no clone hormone just phed water! the one thing i find is that cloner get a bit to hot inside not really sure wat i can do about that!

well hope that helps 1shy im not really to good at explaining stuff so i hope it all makes sense the pics are pretty much somes it up:thumbsup:

Delta-9
11-17-2011, 03:00 PM
as Mcfarmer showed you that is a great and very easy way to get your clones rooted. you could use any bucket with a water tight lid, but that is why we used coolers because they all are ready to use just cut some holes and that's about it. the cooler has a little lip around the cover so when closed the cover seats into the channel and it stops water leaks and it stays really dark inside.
hands down the best and cheapest D.I.Y Aero Cloner project for 25-50$ depending on what you need.

http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/spray_rack_side.png
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/2/1/0/1/sprayer_rack_435950.png

Captsneak
11-18-2011, 08:10 AM
freakin great detailed pics,mates.:animbong:

McFarmer
11-18-2011, 10:46 AM
nice work d-9 was wondering when you were gonna jump in!:thumbsup:
only problem i have with this desighn is the heat build up in it any suggestions on how one could cool the coolerbox?

Delta-9
11-18-2011, 01:03 PM
freakin great detailed pics,mates.:animbong:

thanks its very easy to make you do not even have to glue anything just pushing it on snug is good enough. then drill the holes for the sprayer heads. hookup a nice water pump the more sprayer heads the bigger pump you will need.

nice work d-9 was wondering when you were gonna jump in!:thumbsup:
only problem i have with this desighn is the heat build up in it any suggestions on how one could cool the coolerbox?

i have the same problem its the pump that warms up the water.
so i took 2 of the hole's were the net pots/plugs go and put a net pot upside down over the whole's to block light this will allow some of the heat/humididty to escape i keep a small fan blowing over the cloner and that seems to help greatly but you have to sacrifice 2 of the clone sites but is well worth it.

DoUJuana
11-21-2011, 06:51 PM
I have an 8 spot daisy cloner by botanicare, but I also use rapid rooters or root riots...all 3 I have 100% success rate with..it's crazy, back in the day, I could not get a clone to root, no matter how hard I tried, always grew from seed..now I only start from seed until i find the right pheno of the plant I don't wanna give up, I've also been experimenting with splicing branches, so I can have a mother plant of multiple strains!

In the hydro shop I work in, I have alot of customers that will buy perlite, soak it in liquid clonex or hormex, drain and fill a tray with it, stick the clones in, cover with a propagation dome, and leave em for a week and a half, and have great success with that...

Delta-9
11-22-2011, 11:56 AM
I have an 8 spot daisy cloner by botanicare, but I also use rapid rooters or root riots...all 3 I have 100% success rate with..it's crazy, back in the day, I could not get a clone to root, no matter how hard I tried, always grew from seed..now I only start from seed until i find the right pheno of the plant I don't wanna give up, I've also been experimenting with splicing branches, so I can have a mother plant of multiple strains!

In the hydro shop I work in, I have alot of customers that will buy perlite, soak it in liquid clonex or hormex, drain and fill a tray with it, stick the clones in, cover with a propagation dome, and leave em for a week and a half, and have great success with that...

how good is the daisy aero cloner is it the small round white bucket system? if so how does it work. at the hydro shop it looks pretty cheaply made, looks like it would leak around the cover. any info would be cool! :blazed:

DoUJuana
12-05-2011, 10:31 PM
I don't have a problem with it leaking...you just can't fill it above the max fill line...get roots in about 7 days...i like it, just because you don't have to harden off your clones before you transplant, like you have to with a propagation dome...but when I cut more than 8, i prefer rapid rooters :) i kinda would like a 30 spot ez cloner...