Please Help.

[AlienBait]

Hi guys.

It's been a while since I posted here and I hope you all are doing well.

It seems I have a problem with one of my Bonsai mothers. I've done some research, but have been unable to find any examples of what is happening.

The leaves are dying, but it starts from the stem and works its way to the tips. The problem started from the bottom of the plant and is working its way up the stalk. The non-affected leaves are a nice dark green.

Strain = SFC's SCUD
In soil and the PH = 6.5
Temps have been very high. I keep the mothers in my garage and the temps have been over 100F on a few occasions.

My other mother plants are fine.

Here is a picture of a couple affected leaves:
http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/6/5/6/scudleaves.jpg

Here is the Mother Plant. There is new growth at the tops of the branches (which looks fine), but the leaves and other branches are dying from the bottom up.

http://www.420genetics.com/gallery/files/6/5/6/scudmother.jpg

Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

[CANNABOYD]

I WOULD SAY HEATSTRESS. 100F IS WAY TOO HIGH, 80F IS TOO HIGH sorry i had the caps lock on.

air circulation and temps man.



peace.:blazed:

[AlienBait]

Thanks for the reply.

It certainly could be heat stress, but I've never seen it do this to a plant. All my other mother plants are in the same box and they look just fine.

As to 80F being too high... I've grown out quite a few plants in above 80 degree conditions and had very good results.

Nevertheless, I guess I should bring them inside where the temps are lower.

[Useless]

Looks a K overdose I get when using coco coir.

What medium do you have her in?

[Don de Marco]

Looks a K overdose I get when using coco coir.

What medium do you have her in?
N lockout K overdose...?

[AlienBait]

N lockout or K overdose, eh? (or a combination of both?) I'm using the same nutes I always use and have never seen this before. Would the temps be playing a roll?

Now that I think about it, the nutes I'm using are over 2 years old. They are stored in powder form and I just mix up what I need when I need them. Could the age of the nutes have someting to do with it?

The medium is just some generic potting mix with no added nutes. I water with 1/4 strength hydro nutes normally, however the past few days I've been using just plain PH'd water and I've seen a lot of new growth.

[Useless]

I doubt it is the age of the nutes. Mineral nutrients in powder form are typically stable and have a long shelf life.


Another thing I was thinking...could you possibly be over watering it? That is a tiny plant, and with the heat, thought maybe you might be over-compensating?


Also, using tap or RO water?

[AlienBait]

I doubt it is the age of the nutes. Mineral nutrients in powder form are typically stable and have a long shelf life.


Another thing I was thinking...could you possibly be over watering it? That is a tiny plant, and with the heat, thought maybe you might be over-compensating?


Also, using tap or RO water?

Nope, not overwatering. I always check the soil before watering to make sure I don't overwater.

My water is tap-water that is run through a micro filter, then through a carbon filter, so there are still some minerals in it, but it's pretty clean. I don't have a PPM tester, so I don't know just how clean, however there is definintely no chlorine in the water. I tested that with my pool chlorine tester.

[MK-Ultra]

Is that bark and other various dead plant material? How do you check soil moisture? Do you just stick your finger tip in a little bit or do you lift up the container and check the weight?

[Useless]

Yea AB, I know your grows and would have been surprised if it was just over water.

How's the Ca:Mg ratio?

The KKSC (which seems to dominate the nutrient requirements in this cross) really prefers light feed. She can take a lot, but seems to do better with lighter feed.
If plain water is increasing her health, then I would keep on that until you see an N def.

Aside from that, what's the latest? How are they looking dude?

[AlienBait]

Is that bark and other various dead plant material?
It's "Cactus Mix" Potting mix. Lots of wood chips and sand and no nutes. All of my Mother plants are in the same soil and are not having any problems at all. Been using the same mix for 3 years.

How do you check soil moisture? Do you just stick your finger tip in a little bit or do you lift up the container and check the weight?
Both. They are small enough that I have to pick them up anyway, so I know what they feel like when they need water and sometimes I will stick my finger in just to make sure.

Yea AB, I know your grows and would have been surprised if it was just over water.

How's the Ca:Mg ratio?

The KKSC (which seems to dominate the nutrient requirements in this cross) really prefers light feed. She can take a lot, but seems to do better with lighter feed.
If plain water is increasing her health, then I would keep on that until you see an N def.

Aside from that, what's the latest? How are they looking dude?

I've been using just water for almost a week now and the problem seems to have stopped progressing. Guess I was just too heavy on the nutes. None of my other bonsai mothers have had a problem like this and I treat them all the same. Guess I just need to be a little more careful with this one.

I started a new clone that I am going to make into a new mother plant. The shape of this one just didn't work out because of the problems. I like them to look like little trees. ;)

Interesting that you say the KKSC prefers light nutes because the DP Strawberry Cough is a nute hog. It likes double what I feed the others.

Anyway, thanks for commenting guys. I think I've got it under control (at least I hope so).

It's going to be about 3 or 4 weeks before I can start a real grow (The in-laws are visiting). When I do, I'll be sure to post it up.

[Useless]

AB, the DP SC is a cross with NL. NL is a natural nute hog.

KKSC is a hybrid of Strawberry Fields (indica) x Haze. The hazes are very light feeders.

Like I said, while the kksc can take a lot of nutes, the haze seems to dominate, which a super light feeder. So, while it handles a lot of nutes well, it seems to do a bit better on a lighter feed schedule. It will naturally stay a lighter green than most indicas.

In the SCUD cross, it seems as though the KKSC has dominated the branching structure and feed preference. The OD is evident in the leaf shape and vertical size.
Both play equal roles in the finished product. Big buds of fresh strawberries dipped in diesel fuel. LOL

Hope that helps bro.

[AlienBait]

Very good info. Thanks.