Natalee Holloway

[rangerdanger]

The 18-year old girl missing in Aruba.
Here's a teenager who gets drunk in a foriegn land after ditching her chaparones and goes off with some local guys and hasn't been seen since.
Apparently authorities don't know where she is or whether she's ok or not. The only thing I've heard is they say someone who claims he saw her the night she disappeared said "something bad happened".

But my question is why all the media hoopla?
It was the lead story last night.

Ganja knows I don't wish the foolish Ms. Holloway ill.
But I don't understand why this is more important news than say the wars in Afganistan & Iraq.
Or what this country has done at Gitmo.
Or the famine in the Sudan, you get the picture.
No, we must be consumed by the story of someone we don't know and has absolutely no impact on our lives the media has decreed.

It seems like it's now some sort of new rule that the mainstream media must have a young white woman in distress every month or so.
Remember Jennifer Wilbanks?
And Teri Schiavo?

I bet that there are hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. who have disappeared for a week, or longer. I don't remember media mass hysteria about the one's who aren't young and white and female.

So why do you think the media jumped all over this somewhat common occurance, this particular one?

[Stash]

Well Ranger i agree with you. But this thread is why they jumped on it . Because we are talking about it.

[Tiberon]

yeah....wtf....i agree ranger.
id rather be hearing the MJ verdict*picks nose*
[sarcasm]


I have often wondered that myself......why some stories come up when there really is no need.

Dude.....why did you have to bring up gitmo though?
now your gonna get me all bent and im gonna have to drag out my stoners political science degree:roll:

seriously....good qeustion...wish i had a better answer.
seriously

:roll:

[rangerdanger]

Stash, the only reason I brought it up was because it's everywhere. I'm not talking about the event, but the tempest afterwards. Why did they pick her, or pick anyone at all, because imo, it's currently a non-event.

Maybe it's because they want to get us all riled up so we'll eagerly tune in and thus buy more Toyota's and tampons?

[Heath_Bogenreif]

After all this hoopla it would be a crying shame if they didnt name a hurricane after her or something.

You can gripe about the news but if they werent talking about her they would be yakin it up about Michael Jackoff and Lindsey Lowham and the bedframe made entirely of notches from Paris Hilton.

[rangerdanger]

I think you hit the nail on the head Heath.
Never looked at it that way.
Apparently what the majority of U.S. of Americans (maybe people worldwide) want is a steady stream of stuff that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with them and will not impact their lives in any way shape manner or form.
Like Michael Jackson on trial for jacking off a kid. Honestly I couldn't care less.
But at least that's an event: a trial.
There is sooo much garbage like who Parid Hilton is doing. One of so many that are fanous for being famous--a total media creation.
But sadly that's what people want (although I have to admit I like her burger commercial--in fact I'd like to see her do a Der Wienersnitchel commercial. But I'd feel the same if it were some other sexy unknown model).
Brad and Jennifer, J-Lo et al.--they don't matter to any of us. Yet we're cutting down millions of tree's and burning millions of gal's of petroleum to be informed of them.
I wonder how a network news show that just does serious news would fare?

[Stash]

what i meant ranger is they pick the stories that they pick stories that people are gonna watch ya know. Alot of people are bored with Iraq.They needed something fresh. and a missing teen girl usually turns heads because people have daughters and such ya know.

[Stash]

Todays Media is a cesspool of shit . KILL MTV

[WishICouldGrow]

Ohhhh, our poor innocent Alabaman daugther ravaged by some black island men! Oh, dear!

Who fucking cares. **Click** Oooh, hey, Seinfeld, I've seen this episode... hahaha. Funny. That Kramer.

[Stash]

Do you have a daughter ? .Big difference between ravaged and being Killed and having your body dumped where you will never be found.I don't wish that on anyones family.

[rangerdanger]

You have information that Ms. Holloway is dead?
You should report this to the authorities.
Because everyone in Aruba involved in the search have no idea where she is or if she's dead or alive.

[Stash]

Theres no info saying she was ravaged. but the the thought alone to a parent is devastating. How could anyone not feel compassion for the family ?

[Stash]

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban police on Thursday detained the father of a Dutch teen already in custody in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the teen's mother said.

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"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."

Paul van der Sloot is a judicial official on the Dutch Caribbean island.

Anita van der Sloot was about to leave the house for an interview with the AP when she said police came for her husband. She did not have any additional information about the detention.

Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Caren Janssen, told CNN: "There is a reasonable suspicion that he knows something and is involved in the disappearance."

Four other people have been detained in connection with Holloway's disappearance May 30. The 18-year-old Mountain Brook, Ala., woman was celebrating her high school graduation.

The others in custody are Joran van der Sloot, 17; his friends Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and brother Satish Kalpoe, 18; and Steve Gregory Croes, 26. No one has been charged in the case.

While Anita van der Sloot had been allowed to visit her son occasionally in jail, authorities denied similar access to Paul van der Sloot, saying they believed contact between the two could damage the investigation.

Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were with Holloway the night she disappeared. They said they drove her to a northern beach and then dropped her off at her hotel, where she was approached by a security guard.

Holloway has not been seen since.





Now i am interested

[rangerdanger]

The latest:
The young Mr. van der Sloot now says that instead of returning Ms. Holloway to a hotel, his friends dropped him and Ms. Holloway off at the beach. His friends said they "went along" with their friends lie.
Besides the 3 young men and the elder Mr. van der Sloot, police also have a deejay who works party boats in custody
Maybe van der Sloot and Holloway hooked up with the deejay and went for a "cruise".
I think that if Ms. Holloway was still alive she would have turned up by now, on an island as small as Aruba. I also think if she if her body were dumped on land it would have been discovered.

[Stash]

Shes probably on the bottom of the ocean. Poor girl. I hate to see this kind of thing happen to women and children

[rangerdanger]

Unfortunately, you're probably right.
And, unless someone confesses, we may never know.
IF the deejay, Mr. van der Sloot and Ms. Holloway went for a midnight cruise, and in the course of events Ms. Holloway died and her body was weighted and dumped, it may never be found.
And I think that even in the case of a confession, corroborating evidence would be needed. The real killer (if there is one) could say "he killed her, all I did was help dispose of the body after she was already dead."
Hopefully some of Ms. Holloways hair is still at home, like in a hair brush. DNA could be extracted if a root is present.
Even though Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his wife and transporting her body without leaving a trace, in the vast majority of times it's impossible to remove ALL DNA/forensic evidence of a murder.
A trace of Ms. Holloway found on the boat or clothes of someone would be a big step.

[Stash]

All they can really hope for