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herbgrower
06-27-2005, 01:36 AM
This is a e-mail i received recently from my dad,but it more or less expressess's my sentiment's and i feel that some of you will feel the same.
:animbong:

The right to leave Australia... A little too close to the truth on some
things.
After hearing that the state of South Australia changed its opinion and let
a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license with her face
covered prompted this editorial written by an Australian citizen, published
in an Australian newspaper.
He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please… you decide if you agree.
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT".
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.
However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the ‘politically
correct’ crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism
was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge
against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.
However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our
country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of
Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our
sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own
culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.
This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and
victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian,
American or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of
our society, learn the language!
‘In God We Trust’ is our National Motto. This is not some Christian, right
wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our
schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world
as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If the Southern Cross
offends you, or you don't like (A Fair Go), then you should seriously
consider a move to another part of this planet We are happy with our
culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things
where you came from.
This is OUR COUNTRY, Our Land, and Our Lifestyle, and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our Flag, Our
Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take
advantage of one other great Australian freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will
also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, let’s all try, please.

No matter how many times you receive it please forward it to all you know.

n.b. Notwithstanding the fact that I agree wholeheartedly with the
sentiment of the letter as shown above, I must point out that "in God we
trust" is not the Australian motto and although a nice saying, it's not
appropriate to display it anywhere under such a banner. Australia does not
have an official motto even though "Advance Australia" was shown on the
Commonwealth Crest in the early part of the 20th century. "In God we
trust is a widely used phrase in the United States. Please lets not all of us
fall into the trap of quoting the American constition and motto's as being
our own just because we are subject to their television ad nauseum. If
you
really want to be uniquely Australian, do your homework and and get fair
dinkum.
Sincerely
John Woodger. . . . "advance Australia"

Max Rockatansky
06-27-2005, 05:15 AM
Hey Herbgrower we got one just like that in the US, love it or leave it I say.
I love the USA god bless America!
Being proud of your country is never wrong and I believe the same as you, when you move to a new area or country you must adapt not them!

God Bless the USA and Australia too!


MAX

herbgrower
06-27-2005, 06:19 AM
Thank's Max,appreciate that. :thumbsup:
:animbong:

SFC
06-27-2005, 04:37 PM
We should give the same letter, only substituting Australian for American to all of the Legal,and illelagal immigrants coming here. :thumbsup: I think it cuts to the chase well.

Heath_Bogenreif
06-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Momma always said life was like a burka, never know what your gonna find underneath.

http://www.ciai-s.net/burqanudo.jpg

Stash
06-27-2005, 07:48 PM
Big fan of the Love it or leave policy ... But different cultures don't really bother me its just when i see people trying to make changes that are detremental to society i wanna slap bitches..Like taking religion out of schools. I don't think you should HAVE to pray in school. But if you want to you should beable too regardless of you religion...Alot of liberal radicals trying to get people absolute freedom and Absolute freedom is chaos

herbgrower
06-27-2005, 11:02 PM
Feel free to copy and paste and distibute how you wish Stash. :thumbsup:
:animbong:

Nesta
06-28-2005, 12:26 AM
As harsh as it may sound, i agree as well.

herbgrower
06-28-2005, 09:25 PM
Ok,bit of back ground on my family tree. :D
On Mum's side i am 7th generation Skippy(Aussie). :thumbsup:
On Dad's side i am 1st generation Aussie,but of Russian and Polish stock. :eek:
My ethnic grand-parent's never spoke to us in the "home" tongue,something i kinda regret now,but their attitude was that they come to a "New" country to start a "New" life,so the "Old" way's were left behind.
I once asked my Gran when i was about 12 why she had never taught me Polish.
Her answer floored me !!!! :eek:
"If u wish to learn Polish,go to Poland ! We came over here to start a NEW life !"
We as a family have had our share of rascist taunt's bcoz of our "ethnic" origin's,but as far as i am concerned i am Aussie through and through,and any-one wishing to live in my country should be prepared to ADAPT to my countrie's way of life. :thumbsup:

Just wanted to clarify that i was not totally against immigration,but the people who come into either of our respected countrie's should do their best to damn well adapt to their new surrounding's. :thumbsup:
:animbong:

bongrip420
06-29-2005, 01:35 PM
i love the USA but i dont :give a shit about bush.he is tring to destroy our civil liberties.we cant do anything but the imigration problem is getting worse.we cant close our borders but we should get rid of bush.everyday we lose more rights and jobs because of imigration.WE NEED TO STOP ALL THE IMIGRATION TRAFFIC NOW OR WE WILL GET OVERUN with illegal aliens.they are building their armys here.just watch and see when they get enough in they will try to take our country and the gov't wont do anything about it.the bush admin will be the beginning of our demise....bongrip420 :MAD:

herbgrower
06-29-2005, 11:20 PM
Didn't Bush say that the illegal's will do the job's that are "beneath" the average American tho ?

rangerdanger
06-30-2005, 04:46 AM
I for one am damn glad our founding fathers didn't take a "love it or leave it" attitude. They didn't love the way the king of England was running the show, and instead of leaving as some here have suggested, they fought to change it.
I also don't see anyone here bemoaning the fact that we don't speak Choctaw or Apache, etc. 2 language's spoken when Europeans arrived here.

herbgrower
06-30-2005, 06:45 AM
And i don't speak any Aboriginal dialect's either and ur point is? ;)

From wot i know about my history and ur's,neither of our forefather's treated any of the "local" inhabitant's with any respect,genocide was pretty much on the menu back in them day's. :thumbsup:

The thing is,all that has changed now for the better,maybe maybe not,i think u have missed my original post Ranger,and the sentiment of a lot of ur fellow country-men,and that is;
Foreigner's are more than welcome into both of our respective countrie's,as long as they treat OUR culture's with some respect,as they are the one's who are moving to a better place,to have a better life. ;)
Am i wrong in that assumption?
Coz that was why my grand-father got the fuck out of Russia ! :thumbsup:
And they assimilated with the general population,again,i have missed ur point. :eek:

Peace out. ;)
:animbong:

Heath_Bogenreif
06-30-2005, 10:07 PM
Its the painful process of being pushed to embrace another culture while giving up part of your own. [ the part that would normally descriminate another culture foreign to itself.] The only successful culture to survive such a pounding and come out fairly entact was the irish.

herbgrower
06-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Never a truer statement uttered,gotta give it to the Irish for the way they protected their heritage and tradition's. :thumbsup:
:animbong:

rangerdanger
06-30-2005, 10:35 PM
Herb, let me ask you....
If you were to go to ummm let's say Kuwait ok?
Would you still prefer to speak english?
Hang around with other english speakers?
Would you still like to keep your culture's tradition like say for instance X-mas and Boxing Day or Ned Kelly Day or whatever?
Maybe enjoy some fireworks and Guiness?
Would you prefer Levi's and a t-shirt or a long white robe?
Baseball cap or turban?
In other words, would you be prepared to give up as much as you expect of others who come to Oz?

herbgrower
06-30-2005, 11:09 PM
Um,didn't u read about where my gran-parent's came from Ranger ???? :bongdude:

And no,if i were to go to a foreign country,which i have NO inkling to do,i would respect their tradition's and culture's. :thumbsup:

Why do you think so many tourist's get into trouble when they go to predominately Muslim countrie's.
Their way of life is different from our's,has been for centurie's,which is another thing that ur govt seem's to be lacking in "I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-E-N-C-E" once again,but that don't matter,we will Americanise them whether they want to or not ! :thumbsup:

Kuwait don't really count in my book anyway's as it is pretty much like Beverly Hill's from wot i seen over here! ;)

Don't drink Guinness,it's an Irish drink,don't drink beer actually,get me a bottle of Vodka or some JD,now ur talking!!! :thumbsup:

Now to give u a brief Australian history lesson.
1.Ain't got no Ned kelly day ! ;)
2.I personallly think Xmas suck's arse,it has lost it's true meaning to commercialism,but my 2 boy's like it,so i go aling with it! :D
3.Don't wear baseball cap's,they are useless for sun protection,ur ear's get burnt ! :blazed:
4.Got a coupla pair's of faded Levi's in the wardrobe! :thumbsup:
5.Foster's,Toohey's,XXXX,Emu Lager,Swan,Cascade are all Aussie beer's ! ;)
6.All Aussie's are not steroetypical piss-head's! ;)
7.Don't celebrate the 4th of July either ! :eek:

:thumbsup:

straightdope
07-03-2005, 02:54 AM
Herb, let me ask you....
If you were to go to ummm let's say Kuwait ok?
Would you still prefer to speak english?
Hang around with other english speakers?
Would you still like to keep your culture's tradition like say for instance X-mas and Boxing Day or Ned Kelly Day or whatever?
Maybe enjoy some fireworks and Guiness?
Would you prefer Levi's and a t-shirt or a long white robe?
Baseball cap or turban?
In other words, would you be prepared to give up as much as you expect of others who come to Oz?


Never been to Oz have Ya Ranger ?

Heath_Bogenreif
07-05-2005, 09:28 PM
Never been to Oz have Ya Ranger ?


No, and so far its the only thing that has kept the dingo from being involved in the Vietnam war soldier drug conspiracy. ;)

Tiberon
07-06-2005, 03:12 AM
now THAT was funny:roll:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

herbgrower
07-06-2005, 07:29 AM
LMAO @ Heath !!! :D
That was funny !!! :thumbsup:
:animbong:

herbgrower
07-07-2005, 09:19 PM
I did a bit of research over here,it wasn't the dingoe's,it was the "Secret Brethren of the Sacred Koala Brotherhood" that was behind the Vietnam war !!!! :D
They also had some help from the "Egotistical Emu Mob",and i think the "Killer Kangaroo's" had a paw in there as well.
Every-one try's to put the blame on the poor old dingo,i feel it is time to speak up for them and let people know the TRUTH!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Heath_Bogenreif
07-07-2005, 10:45 PM
Im a pin wearing participant. ;)

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