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Old 02-07-2006, 02:29 PM
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I did not want to wake up to this headline on CannabisCulture this morning:Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company, and Eurohemp.com Shut Down and Servers Seized by Canadian Police.
Now it appears Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), Cannabisworld.com, Overgrow.com, Eurohemp.com have been shut down and the owners arrested in Canada; all their web properties seized, including the physical servers that held massive databases on thousands of growers, and tens of thousands of photographs of cannabis plants. Seed companies by the dozens used both Overgrow.com and Cannabisworld.com as a main trading ground. Over 40 seed companies had customer service interactive forums on these sites.

All the information held on those servers is now in the hands of police. It is not known what charges have been laid nor against whom. That police have not boasted about this seizure means the investigation is continuing, before any affected parties can react.
Overgrow was one of my favorite sites on the net, this is a travesty.
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Old 02-07-2006, 07:00 PM
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what we know so far
some time on sunday / monday (time zones) the OG and CW servers were turned off it seems RC turned them off as he found out he was going to get busted on tuesday morning RC was arrested along with his wife and some staff his wife and staff were released on Wed and Friday but RC was still being held we think he'll get bail today (tuesday) but as a condition of bail it could be that he isn't allowed to use the internet

as to the servers, were unsure if they have been taken or not
Initial reports said the servers were taken but we have no confirmation on this myself and several others have been monitoring the OG / CW IP addresses the IP changed a few times over the last few days but they all point to the OG / CW servers still being where they were before the bust, and have some active ports (mail etc)
and last time I checked this was still the case

only RC will be able to answer the multitude of questions this situation raises
but as mentioned it may take time for us to find out the whole story
I'll update this thread as and when we get any more information

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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21076
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:22 AM
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:48 PM
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RC IS FREE

....Hey Guys...

...Now...before I start here let me just get something straight....

....I have been contacted by the same entity that informed me innitially of the aweful situation regarding RC, the O.G./C.W. servers and the R.C.M.P.

...Whether this contact is completely bonafide.... varifyable, or not beyond all reasonable doubt....I am not 100% sure.......maybe about 75% sure till I hear R.C.'s voice.....but thats good enough for me right now......

I feel that it is imperative that I communicate any information to you all out there, for it could help ease your worries in these harrowing times....

Phew....just made it back to London from the Dam........opened my PM box and had this message from the contact...here it is...

''GYPSY,

Sorry Man....i was with RC all night...he is ok.

He is in the process for preliminary hearing,he still needs to go over case file with lawyers,could be a couple of months before RCMP disclose all evidence,he'll keep you posted.

if you want to call him **********
CAUTION home number tapped!

Thats it for me ... i'll be laying low for a while! if ever your in ********...you know how to find me....''

...and O.P. got this message from the same entity:

''RC shut down all sites when he found out an investigation was in progress to protect the members.NO LOGS AVAILABLE!...(Waaay Heey!.....Bloody Good News!!)

OP-RC will prepare a statement for you to post,and he may reguire a defense fund as all corprate and personal assets have been siezed!...

Well my role has been fulfilled ...time to go back to whatever i was doing before.again...thanks for the trust...and who knows? maybe one day, are paths may cross again.''

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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...285#post333285
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About 48 hours ago I broke my 26 month long self-imposed exile from the internet to post the results of my converstations with RC. Nobody else seemed to the the will or ability to track down and talk to him, and my concerns for the industry and the people I love who participate in it out weighed the enjoyment of my recent relative obscurity. I was sure any calls were going to be monitored, but hey - it's not like my name has never been associated with cannabis seeds, eh. So I called RC. Twice.

The first call was to get his story of what happened to him, and the servers for Overgrow and Cannabis World, and to offer support, financial and otherwise. I had been in contact with a few friends and business acquaintances, and had passed the virtual hat around - to the tune of well over US$50,000 pledged to assist RC, with no strings attached. RC said he would have to talk to his lawyers first for instructions on handling such a large donation. OK, fine. RC has all my contact numbers (always had, btw) and I expected a call the next day with instructions from his lawyers.

After my first call to him, I noted that Marc Emery from Cannabis Culture had a front page story saying RC had split the country, etcetera. Fuck. So, after some introspection, I decided to take the plunge - I was returning to my long lost home, the internet. RC had told me he would be releasing a statement, drawn up with the assistance of his lawyers, within 24 hours. Now, I had taken RC at his word as to what had happened, and I thought his clients, suppliers and members of his sites should have at least an idea of what happened, so I called him back, and said so. He agreed I could post what I put in my first post on the internet in 26 months.

Some things RC said to me didn't sit well with me. I did wake the guy up, but still... my instincts were making my hackles rise. As time passed, I kept thinking - who the fuck doesn't leap on a US$50,000 gift? My instincts said I wouldn't hear from his lawyers about it. I was correct.

Now, I have known RC's real name - and much more information about him, from back in the day when I made a deal with ~Shabang~ to buy out his 1/2 of Overgrow. I started doing the phone call thing to newspapers, the Quebec Provincial Police, RCMP public affairs office, blah, blah, blah. No record of an arrest. No record of bail or release. No records for RC, period. I had a couple of phone calls with ~Shabang~ as well, as he is one of the few people in the world I felt comfortable brain-storming with some of the information I was working with. I trust ~S with my life.

I called everyone I knew - and I know a fuckload of folks - to try and pry out some facts. I got a ton of calls, PM's and emails, and the picture they were painting wasn't jiving with some 'facts' that RC gave me. In fact, the fucker lied to me - to you - to the industry.

Just after midnight last night, I got a call from Marc Emery. Some of you may have heard of him. If you want to Marc bash, stay the fuck outta this thread. I've been in this industry for quite some time, and I don't believe in tearing down anyone who has the guts and determination for a cause that he does. If you don't like doing business with him, then don't. I have managed to negotiate this industry for years without hurting and name calling of people who are, in my eyes, on the same side. (Just ask Dr. Chronic - shortly after his site launched on OG - and when Gypsy was, as usual acting like an asshole and treating the Doc like shit on the boards, his site went down - hardware failure. That day was the first time I talked to the Doc - I called him and offered to host his site until his hardware was repaired. He declined, but that was the basis of a solid business relationship with him, one of my competitors. I have since met the Doc, and he is one of those truly rare finds - an honest to goodness decent and nice man. I would like to think I can call Dr. Chronic my friend, and I won't put up with any Doc bashing here either End of rant)

Emery and I chatted for over 1/2 an hour. At the outset, I was clear that I couldn't give him any information, but we could discuss what we both had knowledge of. I can tell you now that Emery had RC's real name for quite some time, and had been checking high and low, much like I had been, and had found no trace. Emery gave me a who's who list of people who know RC - in some cases for decades - and who RC had shunned any form of contact with since this all started. He quite graciously offered me all they had found out, and didn't pressure me for information in return. His concern for anyone affected by the fallout from this is genuine. The industry is in an uproar, and I hadn't seen anyone else with people working the phones trying to unearth the truth. By approximately 12:53 AM (GMT) Mr. Marc Scott Emery had earned my respect. We ended our chat, but now I still had more questions.

Rumours, speculation and innuendo filled the forums everywhere, and my instincts were screaming by now. Several details RC had given me were blatantly false, but not a smoking gun. Not yet.

And then, this morning at 10:30 AM (GMT) my phone rang. It was an old acquaintance of mine - and he had brought me a smoking gun. He had done business with RC, and RC paid him by check. The check was made out to a business that has nothing to do with cannabis or cannabis seeds. It was the only time that business had ever negotiated a payment from anyone in the industry. And he had just been raided, with the warrant looking for cannabis, cannabis seeds, and financial records. Fortunately, the raid was, well - a bust. Nothing was found, cops were red-faced, and my friend was fine. And pissed off. There is only one person who could have pointed the police to his business. Mr. Richard Baghdadlian, known to you as RC.

I don't doubt that RC was raided, and I don't doubt that his home and business were searched. In fact, I have confirmation they were. He was not arrested. He was at home when I called him, and has since shut off all contact with anyone. I called his lawyers (that little deal a few years ago with ~S, me, RC and OG had left me with all kinda interesting contacts) and they informed me they were not able to contact RC.

So, I'm gonna say it - and lemme tell you, this ain't easy, but now it's time to face some hard facts.

Richard Baghdadlian is co-operating with the authorities to save his own ass, at the expense of breeders, clients, and tens of thousands of members on his sites.

Anyone who had any financial transactions with RC in any way is at risk.

Anyone who posted on OG or CW is at risk. Those forums are gone, and will never be back - the security of every member has been comprimised.

I don't believe IP's were not logged on OG and CW. ~Shabang~ and I discussed this, and how ~S had originally set up the null logs, and db records. Since then, however, RC had instituted many 'anti-troll' features on the boards. Lemme 'splain...

Ask any troll here - if they posted from, say Proxy A one day, and then 3 days later from Proxy B, using the same handle, and admin got tired of them. So, they IP ban Proxy B, while the troll is still signed in. That's how RC would like you to believe it was done. However, if they then tried using a different handle, and Proxy A - well, damned if that one wasn't blocked as well. I can guarantee you that RC had gone back to some default settings to log IP's for everyone, all the time. There is no doubt.

RC is a rat.

OG and CW logged IP's.

The servers weren't seized - they didn't need to seize them - RC has given them complete access to the database records.

People are getting busted based on contact with RC.

I have given oldpink the heads-up a couple of hours ago that I was going to write this up and post it here. Kindly don't tear him up - he is working hard with little information, and is doing the best he can.

As many OG and CW refugees are also hanging at www.hg420.com, I've just got off the phone with Doc Chronic as well, so word of this will get out. (That's important, as that snivelling ****-rag Gypsy likes to delete any quotes from me over at ICMag. Fuck off Gypsy, and stay outta my thread.)

If I have more information to offer later, I'll post it up in this thread.

If you have some information to give me, email is plural_of_encrypted@hushmail.com, or give me a call - from a safe phone, of course, at 07766 871 905 in the UK, 0044 7766 871 905 in Europe, and from N. America use 01144 7766 871 905.

Take care everyone, I hope you're all safe.

Love,

Plural of Mongoose

PS - if yer gonna quote this post over at other sites, kindly quote the entire post, thank you very much. Mongoose

PPS - Fuck you Richard Baghdadlian - FUCK YOU... Fuck you... fuck you...


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Old 02-26-2006, 07:41 PM
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Due to current stresses and strains.....I feel it necessary to make an abrupt change in life......

..so I am going to hand over 100% of G.N.L.T.D. to the other director (Nicky) to take care of and grow......this will involve Seedboutique and Seedbay also, so bear with us during the transition period.........I need to take a long earned rest and change of life from this bizz.......so it's best that I hand over the reigns to some one else......

I.C.Mag and the Dam shop will be looked after by OP.....


....I wish you all well and hope that you understand and bear with us .....I.C.Mag will carry on regardless.....

Dutchgrown is currently unwell so is not readily contactable either......

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Gypsy has retired.

icmag.com rightfully belongs to Gypsy Nirvana Ltd, which is now 100% controlled by Nicky. She is out of the country now. She will make the decision on who will run it and how it will be ran. No changes will be made there for at least 2 weeks, to allow things time to settle. I will not be involved in running icmag.com or any other forum.

RC is apparently facing some charges, and I do not know the details, and won't for sure until I see him. He has indicated through channels that he had shut the servers down and not said anything as he was hoping things would be resolved quickly. When they weren't the problems had started. I don't know if I believe this or not, and a talk with RC and an examination of the server itself, logs, bandwidth, etc will be done by an independent security company before any statement is made on security on that site.

If the community wishes it, I will re-launch OG and turn it over to them. If they don't want it, I will have a nifty, expensive, desktop growing resource

The information in the FAQ and Strainguide will be public domain, available to run copies on any website that asks, for free.

More details coming - I'm working as fast as I can.
GN - Good Bye Thread
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So I Guess This Means Overgrow Will Be Back Up
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you certainly wont be seeing me overthere!
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