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Glad you could stop in Delta-9, pepper, and thanks for the props guys. And many thanks also to whoever starred the thread, that was a very nice compliment as well. I'd K+ alla ya...if the site was set up for it! I still have some editing to the last section to do, which'll take some more time, sad to say, but oughtta wrap things up. (Eventually...) It's kinda complicated by the fact I'm almost outta gallery room too, so I'll hafta decide what can go n' stay in terms o' pics. Ah well, what can ya do...except light another bowl! LOL...
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...n' happy to have ya come by webby. Re-reading my last post, I hope it didn't sound like I was gripin' or complaining, 'cuz that was absolutely not what I meant at all. 420G is set up just fine, and IMHO is a fantastic place. That's great news about pics, too. The upload counter said I only had 5 slots left, so I was really scratchin' my head about what I could drop. THAT'S some real headaches saved. I'll drop ya a PM, but in the meantime...let the uploading commence, LOL!
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Nice! Its great to see such awesome buds coming out of them solo cups !! awesome and great details . You keep up the fine work buddy

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...Forever420...an' I like that handle...and thanks for tha props bro'.

I was just uploading some more pics fer the latest notes. There's one missing photo I still gotta dig up though...dunno how I lost the damn thing...but I oughtta have it all up shortly. ('Bout damn time, LOL...) That'll pretty much bring everything up to date, too.

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mj The Growin’ Stuff, Part 2

The last o’ the mundane stuff...
Cloning With Peat Plugs:
I've been using Jiffy peat plugs for a while, and they work great for me. I started out with rockwool, but it was a real PITA to find locally, and a lot more expensive than the plugs. There are a few things I do to prep 'em first, so in my garden they ain't a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am proposition. Normally 5 or 10 extras are idling n’ ready to go, stored under the dome.

I soak the plugs in a 100% strength mix of filtered water, Clonex feeding solution (1-0.4-1), Liquid Karma (0.1-0.1-0.5), plus a drop or 3 of Superthrive. Finished pH=6.2, Nitrate ppm=200, Nitrite ppm=0-0.5, Hardness ppm=300, Alkalinity ppm=80. The plugs are left soaking overnight to ensure there aren't any dry spots left inside, so as you might imagine, they're pretty well sodden when they come out. They’ll drip dry for 1/2 hour or more, then get stored in the clone dome (anywhere from a day to weeks, depending on my schedule...)where they can lose some more wetness without drying out completely. Just before use, I'll take some sterilized 6" tweezers and loosen/break up the plug's interior a bit, occasionally finding a twig or some other bit o' garbage, leavin’ a hole for the cutting. I try not to distort the overall shape of the plug, and leave the netting on. (It's never been a problem here...) Then it's on to the regular cutting methods everyone seems to use, using Clonex rooting gel liberally. I've tried Rootone powder as well, but rooting time increased by about a week for me. In roughly a month, regular tap water in a glass did the trick too. A 100 ml bottle of gel, with a liter of feeding solution and another of Liquid Karma, will last me about a year in the garden.

Any unused soaking solution is diluted 50% with filtered water, and a portion goes into the clone sprayer. (A completely separate thing from the dome sprayer...) I take up to 10 cuttings at a time, so summa them can wind up with extended stays with only 5 usually goin’ into each rotation. If the plugs ever feel too light to me, I’ll lightly spritz ‘em from this, and I use it to foliar feed occasionally as well. But this really only applies to clones that’re a bit long in the tooth, which can actually start vegging in the dome. New cuttings don’t normally need additional watering, unless the puck has been sitting a while. Don’t ever be afraid to pick ‘em up and check their heft from time to time, just clean your hands first an’ be gentle. After handling well-soaked plugs, ya definitely know when one feels too light.

I used to mist the dome in Cab 2 twice a day, at both the AM n’ PM garden checks. Hindsight bein’ what it is, this was pro’ly the main culprit in my problems with the Chocolate Chunk I tried a coupla grows back. Just too damn wet, and I eventually found that the White Widow...an’ everythin’ else for that matter...liked it drier also. A once a day misting is enough these days. I only spray the dome, using filtered water from a dedicated sprayer, and skipping a night isn’t a problem. Sometimes it even seems ta do ‘em some good, so I’ll skip the misting deliberately at times. The whole process is a sorta “controlled dry-out” (without lettin’ things get too dry...) to encourage ‘em along.


Mothers:
If I like the finished look/smoke/whudevah of the original seed plant, the best cuttings IMO then compete to become the next mom, and everything proceeds with clones. I keep established mothers in 6” (52 oz) pots and train heavily, pruning and takin’ cuttings roughly every 2 or 3 weeks during periods of peak growth. If I need to re-establish a mother, there’s another competition among her best progeny on hand...

The 6” containers aren’t much more’n a quart., but earlier grows done in ‘em would easily have reached 3+ feet (an’ some did...)without heavy pruning n’ training. They still keep the girls smaller and more manageable, and don’t take up a lotta valuable floor space. For me, I found it wasn’t practical to maintain mothers long-term in anything smaller. Certainly OldTimer1’s record is in no danger of being broken in my garden, my oldest mums so far only reaching 18 months, fer a variety of reasons...

These days I like to use training wire and lead weights to LST the mums. This presents its own set o’ headaches, but isn’t any more or less convenient than any other training technique I’ve tried so far. I’ll also use some limited pruning/limbing methods when n’ where needed. If I’m cutting back a branch that’s lignified—turned woody—I’ll cut ¼ to ½” above the next node or branch (or direction I want the plant to take...), and let the plant heal itself naturally. In the pics you can see how the cellulose core has hardened into a natural plug from an earlier trimming, as the wound dried out. Also in my putterings, I’ve had greater success rooting slightly lignified cuttings in plain ol’ tap water inna glass, than I did with fresher green shoots. Don’t ask me why, beats me...



Freshly trimmed back, the mothers’ heights average around 10 to 14 inches, with 3 or 4 main stems in either a cup or fan shape providing fresh shoots. The girls’ll bush out again, right up to the lights if I let ‘em, which I usually leave hangin’ about 17 or 18” from the top of the pots. That may sound like too much distance, especially when ya consider the mums also share Cab 1 with transplants in veg that might only be 2 to 4” tall to start with. Sometimes rarely I will lower the lights, but really haven’t encountered anything I’d call undue or abnormal stretching, in either Cab 1 or 3. If anything, with fluoros I’ve noticed the internodes on plants tend to stack pretty closely, sometimes at ¼” or less, but it also depends very heavily on the strain.

All my mothers are onna water-only regimen and get a feeding once a month(maybe...), usin’ the final leftover bit o’ diluted plug solution from the pan...if they appear to need it. Otherwise, the rest makes the house plants very happy for a bit. I actually prefer to leave my mums just a lil’ on the hungry side now, since losing that batch to toxic salt buildup earlier. In my well intentioned ignorance, I’d literally killed my own girls with kindness. I’m not obsessed with keepin’ every leaf green an’ perfect anymore, and find steady (but low...) N migration a reliable barometer to overall plant health. These babies constantly churn out new sun leaves and branches, cannibalizing an’ recycling their older material for N as a matter of efficiency. But once ya know what yer lookin’ at, any other possible nute deficiencies show more easily too IMVHO, lettin’ me get a jump on ‘em.


Small pots restrict the rootball an’ plant size, but exhaust their soil more quickly o’ course. Despite the occasional top dressin’ and decent water pH, my soil’s pH slowly drops over time too. Root trimming and repotting is done roughly every 15 to 20 weeks, but the WR went about a year in yet another bizarre experiment. Between repottings I use a salad fork to keep the top ½” of the container’s dirt loose, and might top-dress each mother once or twice with a teaspoon of hydrated lime, worm castings, or other additive during that time. Depends on what the ladies say they want and the current soil pH.
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It's been a while since I've updated, but the garden has hummed along none-the-less. Thankfully I took plenty of pics along the way, even if I couldn’t post at the time.

These pics are all of one lady, some of a healthy batch o’ Durga Mata...

DM on Harvest Day...my favorite day!...The best of this lot got about 10" tall, but naturally enough some runts were in there as well, plus cooler temps this winter have put a small ding in finished dried weights. Been through this cycle before, and things will swing the other way as summer approaches. There was a lil' White Rhino with this bunch too, but nothing very weighty as you'll later see...


...and best of all, Harvest Day is roughly every two weeks. Peace n' happy growin'.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:01 AM
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Joint All Clones Are Not Created Equal...

Can you guess which ones?...

A tea plate of most of this batch, Durga Mata, all part of the same lot previously. The DM only came to 0.6 oz dried, and including the White Rhino things came to 0.7 oz. Plenty ‘nuf fer my own purposes, but I’ve seen better. C'mon Spring! I reuse opaque plastic BBQ containers for canning/storage at RT, in my retired grow cab, and burp 'em semi-regular. (That’s to say, when I can remember to...)


This more recent batch of plants was heavy on Caramella, but there were a coupla sticks of the DM n’ WR in there too. Now that the CM has settled in from her initial vigor a bit, the T5s have been rehung at 13”, much to the pleasure o’ the others. The sweetest spot for these lights IMO appears to be around 10” distance, give r’ take 2”. The 2 small Mylar side panels remain in place in Cab 3, since their reflected heat didn’t become too serious an issue. The DM and WR also appreciate the new, longer flower time, but the CM still doesn’t strike me as bein’ quite done these days. It’s frosty, though it remains the least resinous strain and could use s’more flower time IMO, but 8 weeks is the absolute limit here.

A photo-shoot, then a manicure, and then off to hang and dry for 2 weeks before a de-stemmin’ n’ canning...God bless you, girls!...

Just Veggin’:
With all my foolin’ around, there are now usually a few extra plants in veg, along with the 3 mums and the incoming 5 transplants. Things are pretty cramped in Cab 1 these days, but it still let’s me hold back the smallest of the batch getting bumped out to Cab 3. Older, better rooted gals are substituted into flower, and I get fewer dwarfs per cycle. The runts can get 2 more weeks of veg, and might take their place next time...or not, dependin’ onna numbers. The DM isn’t always the slowest o’ the bunch, but I do tend to have batches heavy on one strain or another. And if I pinch/prune plants in veg higher than 1 ½ to 2” above their soil line, I’ve generally reached a point of diminishing returns in my garden by the time they get to flowering.

So after 2 (hypothetical...)weeks of veg, the next batch of 5 plants goes into Cab 3 for 8 weeks of flowering. At this point there’s a Grande Reshuffle in the cab, as the tallest plants go out on the perimeter around the new incomin’ shorties...

And so it goes...and goes...the perpetual SOG, after all...LOL...Though there’s always a side project runnin’ somewhere too...I guess all the rest is just “fine tuning”, LOL...Peace n’ happy growin’ to ya.
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